... the other Black experience
!!! AGAINST THE GRAIN: POST YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINIONS !!!
It's BACK!
An all time great thread from the AP 1.0 foundation.
Massive props goes to the originator Onomatrix who brought us this powerful forum, inspired by by a forum on Playahata.com (if I'm correct). Ono, get on here and set it off with your unique perspective.
Objective: express the opinions that would normally get your run out of town if vocalized or presented. Example:
= Obama is not the best candidate but he's all we've got
= Black folks are our own worst enemy
= Women are too emotional
= Men are too emotionless
= Censorship is a good idea
= All women with perms hate their natural selves
= All men with dreads date white women
= Folks under 30 don't know anything about good music
= Chocolate owns vanilla
= J-Dilla couldn't touch Premeir, Large Pro, Pete Rock or Dre
...and so on (disclaimer: all the above examples do NOT represent my personal views, one or two maybe...).
This is not a place for full on debate & violent conflict, but please be free in how you express. And keep the page long flame-wars to private messages and off the boards.
Ready? Let's go!
An all time great thread from the AP 1.0 foundation.
Massive props goes to the originator Onomatrix who brought us this powerful forum, inspired by by a forum on Playahata.com (if I'm correct). Ono, get on here and set it off with your unique perspective.
Objective: express the opinions that would normally get your run out of town if vocalized or presented. Example:
= Obama is not the best candidate but he's all we've got
= Black folks are our own worst enemy
= Women are too emotional
= Men are too emotionless
= Censorship is a good idea
= All women with perms hate their natural selves
= All men with dreads date white women
= Folks under 30 don't know anything about good music
= Chocolate owns vanilla
= J-Dilla couldn't touch Premeir, Large Pro, Pete Rock or Dre
...and so on (disclaimer: all the above examples do NOT represent my personal views, one or two maybe...).
This is not a place for full on debate & violent conflict, but please be free in how you express. And keep the page long flame-wars to private messages and off the boards.
Ready? Let's go!
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Permalink Reply by X-D-D-M*9 on
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Heheh, you're so easy Invalid Mlle. I'll give it to you you're op is quite unpop and you are as predictable as the sunrise.
Good morning to you!
And yeah Mooney's a hack who set off the careers of Richard Pryor, Robin Williams, Sandra Berndhart, Dave Chapelle, The In Living Color cast, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, etc. and a hundred comics Silverman will never be as funny as in her or your wildest fantasies.
Viva Afrocentric Nutjobs!
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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on -
Just cause you write for people doesn't make you as good as them. There's a reason for one being a writer and the other being the star in the first place (and why there's more than one writer). Usually black people who dig Paul Mooney are closed minded to any other kind of comedy that doesn't rely so heavily on race (and "black people with low self esteem about being black" revisionist history). That's why Mooney =/= Pryor despite writing for him. Pryor was beyond race, Mooney only has that. Even Chappelle was beyond race. Go beyond race. The human experience is not all about race.
You don't find Sara funny, fine but to say she's less funny than less notable comics is laughable especially when her humor isn't even targeted at you (besides, you think Paul Mooney is funny, that says it all). Of course you don't get it, you're a black male, up in years and the type of person that thinks Paul Mooney is topical and valid when the bulk of his act boils down to profanity and "blackness" with no real wit. Me on the other hand, Silverman, Showalter, Black, Mirman etc., are all right up my ally.Sarah's latest even angrier season is like someone vomited up my soul in the form of an offensive episodic show. It's like someone gave Fanny Brice bad acid.
The type of person who likes Paul Mooney is. ..not the type of person I'd expect to laugh at Sarah's jokes in a million years and I'd never expect anyone who liked Sarah to laugh at a lot of what Paul Mooney does.
Daoud said:Heheh, you're so easy Invalid Mlle. I'll give it to you you're op is quite unpop and you are as predictable as the sunrise.
Good morning to you! And yeah Mooney's a hack who set off the careers of Richard Pryor, Robin Williams, Sandra Berndhart, Dave Chapelle, The In Living Color cast, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, etc. and a hundred comics Silverman will never be as funny as in her or your wildest fantasies.
Viva Afrocentric Nutjobs!
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Permalink Reply by Civilized Radical Films on -
Margret Cho is funnier ( and even better looking) than Sarah Silverman.
Nobody , other than close friends and associates, gives two fucks about "ALTERNATIVE" Blacks.
Simmons and Rubin can both kick rocks.
I still don't hate twilight, never have , never will. It's pointless to hate something you haven't read or seen.
Obama might not get a second term.
Ron Paul is looking like the president for 2012....*Awaits every CT-er*
Monique(?/meh) deserved the win.
Comedy is Comedy. Not one style is smarter or better than the other.
PBS >>> "History" Channel
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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on
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"Margret Cho is funnier ( and even better looking) than Sarah Silverman."
I'll agree with that, Sarah is bad looking for a Jew, Notorious C.H.O was the first comedy special that turned me on to a different type of woman in comedy. That having been said Sarah and Cho share the same fanbase and collaborate.
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Permalink Reply by Compound Egret on -
CocoaPuss Zine said:most people on this site, and perhaps in real life spend a whole lot of time complaining and making excuses as to why their lives aren't going the way they want them to, why they can't get a job, why they can't move out of their parent's house, why they can't travel, why they can't lose weight, etc etc etc. and it's just really irritating. stop being lazy. and stop whining. if you don't want to put in any effort and you aren't willing to get some loans and go to school but still complain about how shitty your life is you have nobody to blame but your own lazy ass. take some responsibility for your own life. it's nobody's fault but your own. i'm just so over excuses. you have a crappy job because you have no skills. you have no skills because you're always on afropunk complaining about how someone screwed you over. it's pathetic really. i accomplished more on chemo with a damn IV in my arm at the age of 16 than most adults do now. nothing should keep you from being productive. not a baby, not a chronic disease, not a shitty family, not your mama in jail, not anything.
a job, a house, good credit, a family, an education, are not the be all end of all of anyone's life and if you don't have them, you can't still be ok, but most people want them, work towards them, pray for them, plan for them for a reason. they are all quite lovely.
Sizzling like hydrogen peroxide on a cut. Taping this to the glovebox.
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Permalink Reply by sceneless on -
Mlle d. Sade said:Just cause The type of person who likes Paul Mooney is. ..not the type of person I'd expect to laugh at Sarah's jokes in a million years and I'd never expect anyone who liked Sarah to laugh at a lot of what Paul Mooney does.
I find both of them to be hilarious, but then again I'm a fan of politically incorrect humor.
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Permalink Reply by sceneless on
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Compound Egret said:CocoaPuss Zine said:most people on this site, and perhaps in real life spend a whole lot of time complaining and making excuses as to why their lives aren't going the way they want them to, why they can't get a job, why they can't move out of their parent's house, why they can't travel, why they can't lose weight, etc etc etc. and it's just really irritating. stop being lazy. and stop whining. if you don't want to put in any effort and you aren't willing to get some loans and go to school but still complain about how shitty your life is you have nobody to blame but your own lazy ass. take some responsibility for your own life. it's nobody's fault but your own. i'm just so over excuses. you have a crappy job because you have no skills. you have no skills because you're always on afropunk complaining about how someone screwed you over. it's pathetic really. i accomplished more on chemo with a damn IV in my arm at the age of 16 than most adults do now. nothing should keep you from being productive. not a baby, not a chronic disease, not a shitty family, not your mama in jail, not anything.
a job, a house, good credit, a family, an education, are not the be all end of all of anyone's life and if you don't have them, you can't still be ok, but most people want them, work towards them, pray for them, plan for them for a reason. they are all quite lovely.
Sizzling like hydrogen peroxide on a cut. Taping this to the glovebox.
Co-sign. I need a good kick in the ass sometimes :-).
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Permalink Reply by PolarVibez on -
Mooney is best at writing but his standup is better than his political straight talk or him being an intellectual or whatever. I think it's best if he just let's the jokes speak for themselves. How's that for an unpop op?
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Strangely, I find Sarah Silverman kinda cute-for a Jew or otherwise.
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Permalink Reply by JUstLovebeatZ on -
Yo Miss Rosenda,
Luv you for breaking it down. All that SHOULD be far too popular an opinion for this thread. In a perfect world...
Rosenda said:Well said El, Mota, Lesy, and Greggie P.
Set the background, I am on vacation, and sitting at home. Ahem.
There is nothing impressive about how loud your car stereo in that Hummer that you can't afford to put gas in, the fact that you have said Hummer in the first place, how baggy your jeans are or how much you paid for them, how drunk you got at the party, how loud you talk at 4am, how many guhls you ALMOST got at the party. So please, shut the fuck up already.
It's not a coincidence, young 'uns, that the only folks who are impressed by all that dropped out of high school, ain't got no legal job, are dramatic and mean and bitchy and ignorant (even by your own account). Ain't you ever thought of that? No? Don't start complaining about how no-count your "friends" and lovers are: do some inventory and see how you are presenting yourself to world in the first place. You'll get your answer and believe me it ain't gonna be pretty.
Yeah, I'm a bitch for saying it but I'm real ain't I? I am honest because I ain't got time nor patience to be anything but honest. I shall not concoct any stories for you. Seriously, you potentially got the world by it's throat if you make a few changes.
Be careful who you let in your world. Pay attention to what they REALLY all about. Think before you do shit. Like my old homegirl who is now in her early 60's told me many years ago: don't make a permanent decision based on a temporary situation.
Dammit......you spend what little money you got on these fucking big ass loud SUV's and is it making YOU any money? No! And no it ain't gonna find you "the one"....it'll find you some gold diggers who are out to get you in this neighborhood, I can gurantee you that.
You ought to check out my nice neighbors.....they young like you. They have found the balance of having just enough FUN with they friends, while STILL having common sense enough to take good care of themselves and they kid. They got street smarts enough to survive but they have avoided the pitfalls of acting a damn fool like you. Young squires of the hood.....take heed to them.
Ain't they living proof you don't have to fuck with excess to have a good time? Damn.
NEXT UNPOPULAR OPINION:
What needs to be buried: taking those online battles public. Did that fourteen page long back and forth about whatever subject get your bills paid, put gas in your car, put money in your pocket, get you laid, teach you something useful in your day to day real life? If it didn't......leave it alone.
Ain't nobody gonna be upset if you DON'T have the last word. We'll all secretly thank you all for NOT doing it.
In fact, we'll APPLAUD you internally for taming it. We'll be happy and even learn a bit from the clearly stated views and opinions and rebuttals that each make a point, without degenerating into a "but I'm trying to prove I'm right and you're wrong" bullshit. That would be 1950s generational Future Always Very Cherry SWEET, now wouldn't it!!
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Permalink Reply by kifaru on -
Atheists are just as liable to use their non belief as justification of whatever crime they find convenient. They are just as like ly to lie and dissemble and come up with crazy explanations for what they do too. What's worse they always conveniently forget the massacres that were instituted by Stalin and Pol Pot when they are talking about the atrocities of religious people.
Some people think that means being nice means you will let anyone say anything to you. The fact is those people are not nice themselves and don't know what nice means. When they say nice they mean "who ever agrees with me".
You're a hypocrite if you cheer on someone from your group on for saying racist shit and act like it's just a joke but then get mad when someone from another group says something racist about your group. Example
"What do you call white people from Wisconsin?" Answer "Cheese crackers!" Hahahah! says the black crowd!
"What do you call a group of unemployed blacks discussing politics outside a welfare office?" Answer " An N.A.A.C.P. meeting!" That shit is Racist! the black crowds says.
You really don't give a shit about black people unless you're doing all the shit you know you can do to help yourself, your family, and your community improve itself.
The feminist, afrocentric, free-living, fairness, open relationship, equal rights, down for my dogs, bullshit you subscribe to will go by the wayside by the time you are in your 30's when you got a kid or a mortgage and you're scared for your job.
If you saw someone being assaulted, being robbed or being raped or even if you saw someone drop trash in the street all they would have to do was give you one hard look and you would walk away and not do shit.
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Permalink Reply by JUstLovebeatZ on
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Or that Halle got one for Monster's Ball or Denzel got one for Training Day. See a pattern? Demeaning rolls = Oscar
lyfenlyn said:I dont care Monique got an oscar for Precious. That isn't progress.
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Permalink Reply by Death is Drunk on -
I don't think the Oscars are known for choosing inspirational roles. Most of the characters are beaten down, facing war, conflict, oppression and personal demons like drugs and alcohol and tragedies etc. Maybe the nominators feel like it's more challenging I don't know.
JUstLovebeatZ said:Or that Halle got one for Monster's Ball or Denzel got one for Training Day. See a pattern? Demeaning rolls = Oscar
lyfenlyn said:I dont care Monique got an oscar for Precious. That isn't progress.
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