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fucking going green
PEOPLE! The term 'Go Green' is just a fucking marketing tool for companies. Companies that say 'Go Green' just want you to consume there green product. Buy more green is not the solution. Just stop buying shit needlessly. So sick of this shit. (I swear some people just need to learn how to have shit taken away, not have more things created to 'ween' people off of old things) This is some reverse ass Anti-Captain Planet shit. For real.
Go Green = Not Punk.
Go Green = Not Punk.
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Permalink Reply by LesYpersound on -
yeah, it's getting a bit annoying as a trend.
the funniest i've encountered are ppl w/ straight faces telling me that 300$ jeans paid for at retail value are justifiable for one and make them better consumers (or people, not too sure by their tone) because it's organic, freetrade wool hand picked from central america which is organically/environment-counsciously dyed, and woven as well as assembled in supposed non-sweatshops in India by hand. Nevermind the the rivets and button are gold played...these jeans are about saving the world one 300$ pair or traditional workwear at a time.
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Permalink Reply by ibrother on -
You guys should watch this:
In an emotionally charged talk, MacArthur-winning activist Majora Carter details her fight for environmental justice in the South Bronx -- and shows how minority neighborhood suffer most from flawed urban policy.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/majora_carter_s_tale_of_urban_re...
Also get this one.
UNC TV Black Issues Forum.
Episode 2314
Blacks Going Green
"Green" has become a hot topic for everyone from political candidates and scientists to community activists, but why? With so much attention around the Green movement and economic implications attached, how well positioned are African Americans to be significant players in the discussions? Producer Deborah Holt talks to African Americans long involved in the Green Movement about the related health concerns, economic implications, and issues around environmental justice issues.
Guests:
Anita Brown Graham: Director of the Institute for Emerging Issues, which will be presenting discussions about North Carolina's leadership on the global energy challenge at the 2008 annual Emerging Issues Forum.
Joseph Jackson: Assistant Director for Grounds, Sanitation and Recycling Services at Duke University
Yasmin M. Fozard, M.L.A.: an Adjunct Instructor in the Department of Environmental, Earth, and Geospatial Sciences at North Carolina Central University. She is also working to develop an environmentally sustainable African American community in Durham.
http://www.unctv.org/bif/video/index.html
scroll down a bit to watch it
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Permalink Reply by ibrother on
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Here's another one to watch
Van Jones Knows How to Build a Green Economy
Posted by Brave New Films, Talking Points Memo on August 13, 2008 at 3:15 PM.
Your Daily Politics Video Blog: The closing keynote speaker of the Netroots Nation convention in Austin last month was environmental and social justice activist Van Jones. Following his Sunday morning speech TPMtv caught up with Mr. Jones and asked him about the perception of the environmental movement in the black community and how to alter that perception for the better in creating a full-blown eco-populism movement.
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Permalink Reply by Ghettopunkrocker on -
Snoop and Willie Nelson have been going green for years, maybe we should take note...okay, they all can't be winners. Anyway, this going green isn't some stupid trend. This is a lifestyle choice, but now this is just going to evolve into some bad fad.
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Permalink Reply by PolarVibez on -
I feel what your saying about consumerism playing a part in these green camapings. But it's about more than that. The most important thing is to be more conscious about how we live and how we consume. To seriously think about shit like leaving lights on for no reason. Cutting down on water usage. Buying products and food locally. If you own a home, look into alternative enegry. This is the most important part, it's not just buying shit. To dismiss the the whole movement as bs is missing the whole point. I don't think anyone except the most crustiest of granola eating deadheads actually knows what "going green" means. It's more about educating yourself about your environment and what you can do within your means to make a difference. Idlly sitting by and doing the same crazy shit over and over again is not punk either. I'm glad the gas prices are high. If it has people thinking about better alternatives to fossil fuels that are obviously killing the planet, I say let them bitches soar! Going green is about change, not buying some hemp sneakers that don't even look hot. We're in a capatalist environment though, so people are going to buy and sell shit regardless. We just all need to make more informed decisions about what we buy and sell.
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Permalink Reply by PolarVibez on
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Bloom's theory is the dumbest shit I ever heard. At the rate we're going, overpopulation and continuing to rape the earth as we're doing would only speed up global warming and cause more wars. We're already fighting over oil, soon we'll be fighting over food, space and clean water. We won't have to worry about the Earth wiping us out because we'll probably wipe ourselves out first. What's the point of our DNA being preserved if we're only going to come back and make the same mistakes? Once the earth is rid of us, what kind of fate would give us a second chance? It's easy to smugly say that sustainability is a joke now because our generation is not even gonna get the worst of what is to come if we follow his advice. I doubt he would have this "theory" if he was gonna be around say 50 to 100 years from now...Yeah! let's shoot for global panic, social disorder, higher rates of cancer and birth defects, a few more Katrinas and the atmosphere of Venus!, We won't survive but our DNA might, that's smart :/
T-Von said:People just throw the term "Go Green" around...but they don't know what it really means. It's the in-thing, the latest craze, but everyone is doing it all wrong.Reduction should be the first step. You're right. In my opinion, we need to stop overconsuming, overusing, overabusing, over-expanding, etc..etc..
This post reminds me of this article I read called "Screw Sustainability: The Age of the Tornado Tamers Busting the Bubble of Spaceship Earth" by Howard Bloom. Bloom is basically against going green. His premises seem a little nuts though! But here's his main argument:
Bloom believes that emphasis on sustainability should be wiped out because earth and its ecosystem are not as frail as we believe it to be. In addition, he claims that Mother Nature is a vicious force that kills more biota than consumerism, industrialism, and capitalism. Bloom says that since we cannot control Mother Nature, we might as well take advantage of her by using up her resources for human survival. Bloom implies that we should reproduce and increase our population to ensure that human beings and “DNA family” survive Mother Nature’s next mass extinction. He wants us to learn from extremophiles and other bacteria who reproduce at a very rapid rate (he appears to be endorsing overpopulation).
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Permalink Reply by Wheredawhitewomenat on -
Organic $300 dollar jeans? Oh, fuck them lol. Since when are sweatshops a bad thing?
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Permalink Reply by LesYpersound on
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going green as a fad is pretty stupid.
i believe the point is that $30 "i'm not a plastic bag" tote bullshit is really tired and these tools with money don't really give a shit.
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Permalink Reply by BlaqJeff on -
So what if going green is a fad. What? Would you rather pollution be a fad?
In the end this will end up being a marketplace decision. When we stop buying SUV's and start walking to work or if we stop using air conditioners or start installing solar panels, the market place will respond. So let it be a fad. Let stupid hipsters spend 300 bucks on a pair of free range organic blue jeans. Just don't get so disgusted and feel that the whole thing is nothing but a fad and in order to rebel against the hipsters you end up going in the other direction. Yeah! The oil companies would love that.
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Permalink Reply by LesYpersound on
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BlackJeff said:So what if going green is a fad. What? Would you rather pollution be a fad?
In the end this will end up being a marketplace decision. When we stop buying SUV's and start walking to work or if we stop using air conditioners or start installing solar panels, the market place will respond. So let it be a fad. Let stupid hipsters spend 300 bucks on a pair of free range organic blue jeans. Just don't get so disgusted and feel that the whole thing is nothing but a fad and in order to rebel against the hipsters you end up going in the other direction. Yeah! The oil companies would love that.
yeah, i'd prefer that doing the right thing wasn't a status drenched flash-in-the-pan fad for the weak of mind.
it's pretentious and not nearly big enough to effect any real change--unlike the new compact fluorescents lightbulbs which are marketed to the masses as an ultimately cheaper alternative to wasteful incandescent light bulbs and then is backed by new Energy Law regulations. So, yep, no to fads--sure to real change that isn't steeped in consumer-driven class guilt and fakeass pats on the back.
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