fucking going green

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Permalink Reply by Daryl on September 1, 2008 at 2:18am

There isn't any reason for anyone to over complicate what I'm saying. It's been made abundantly clear in the past months since the burst of 'green' commercialism that, "going green" is a consumer tool. I was raised by a single parent with 2 jobs who spent the first 22 years of her life living off the land in the country side of Jamaica. I understand the concept of conservation and working for your own yield very, very, well. How American's receive the term "go green" is absurd. As frequently as the term is used, it's trivialized. There's no severity too it at all. Anytime a news channel has there "weekly green report" or "on going special on the environment" the news reporters always chuckle and use cutesy terms to summarize 'green' solutions that people come up with. People don't actually want to go green, that'd be a severe lifestyle change. People just don't want to acknowledge that what's there doing is wrong. Because to do that would challenge there worth to society in a negative way. Once a person faces that they have no willingness to change against a world changing before them they either get bitter or sorrowful, so why not laugh it off and just assume technology will advance and do it for us.


again,

FUCK GOING GREEN

it's bullshit. People aren't honestly into it. It's a busy task for soccer moms and advertising agents.
fuck going green.

peace.

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Permalink Reply by ibrother on September 2, 2008 at 2:49pm

What color then?

Daryl said:

There isn't any reason for anyone to over complicate what I'm saying. It's been made abundantly clear in the past months since the burst of 'green' commercialism that, "going green" is a consumer tool. I was raised by a single parent with 2 jobs who spent the first 22 years of her life living off the land in the country side of Jamaica. I understand the concept of conservation and working for your own yield very, very, well. How American's receive the term "go green" is absurd. As frequently as the term is used, it's trivialized. There's no severity too it at all. Anytime a news channel has there "weekly green report" or "on going special on the environment" the news reporters always chuckle and use cutesy terms to summarize 'green' solutions that people come up with. People don't actually want to go green, that'd be a severe lifestyle change. People just don't want to acknowledge that what's there doing is wrong. Because to do that would challenge there worth to society in a negative way. Once a person faces that they have no willingness to change against a world changing before them they either get bitter or sorrowful, so why not laugh it off and just assume technology will advance and do it for us.


again,

FUCK GOING GREEN

it's bullshit. People aren't honestly into it. It's a busy task for soccer moms and advertising agents.
fuck going green.

peace.

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Permalink Reply by Hardwired on September 6, 2008 at 7:23pm

Once you accept that we (particularly in the west) are raping the earth of its resources in an unsustainable way we must all make up our minds how and what we will do to overcome this threat. It is not easy, the marketing people want to create new markets out of going green but it doesn't mean that all of their ideas are rubbish or that you can't contribute your own solutions. This casual confusion, distrust and inertia fostered by opponents who do nothing to respect nature is repugnant. Our attempts to go greener may not be perfect but let’s not lose heart.

"Stumbling is not falling." Malcolm X

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Permalink Reply by Daryl on September 6, 2008 at 7:29pm

Blurpleberry Or RappleMelon... would be flavors in a normal world but in my world they're majestic colors. majestic.

ibrother said:

What color then?
Daryl said:

There isn't any reason for anyone to over complicate what I'm saying. It's been made abundantly clear in the past months since the burst of 'green' commercialism that, "going green" is a consumer tool. I was raised by a single parent with 2 jobs who spent the first 22 years of her life living off the land in the country side of Jamaica. I understand the concept of conservation and working for your own yield very, very, well. How American's receive the term "go green" is absurd. As frequently as the term is used, it's trivialized. There's no severity too it at all. Anytime a news channel has there "weekly green report" or "on going special on the environment" the news reporters always chuckle and use cutesy terms to summarize 'green' solutions that people come up with. People don't actually want to go green, that'd be a severe lifestyle change. People just don't want to acknowledge that what's there doing is wrong. Because to do that would challenge there worth to society in a negative way. Once a person faces that they have no willingness to change against a world changing before them they either get bitter or sorrowful, so why not laugh it off and just assume technology will advance and do it for us.

again,
FUCK GOING GREEN

it's bullshit. People aren't honestly into it. It's a busy task for soccer moms and advertising agents.
fuck going green.

peace.

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Permalink Reply by ibrother on September 7, 2008 at 12:24am

That's cool and all, but I agree that green is the new buzz word and I agree with Van when he talks about how the haves will coop the have nots into thinking that there's nothing they can do. The changing clolors reminds me of the emerald city scene in the wiz where Pryor kept changing it.


Daryl said:

Blurpleberry Or RappleMelon... would be flavors in a normal world but in my world they're majestic colors. majestic.
ibrother said:

What color then?
Daryl said:

There isn't any reason for anyone to over complicate what I'm saying. It's been made abundantly clear in the past months since the burst of 'green' commercialism that, "going green" is a consumer tool. I was raised by a single parent with 2 jobs who spent the first 22 years of her life living off the land in the country side of Jamaica. I understand the concept of conservation and working for your own yield very, very, well. How American's receive the term "go green" is absurd. As frequently as the term is used, it's trivialized. There's no severity too it at all. Anytime a news channel has there "weekly green report" or "on going special on the environment" the news reporters always chuckle and use cutesy terms to summarize 'green' solutions that people come up with. People don't actually want to go green, that'd be a severe lifestyle change. People just don't want to acknowledge that what's there doing is wrong. Because to do that would challenge there worth to society in a negative way. Once a person faces that they have no willingness to change against a world changing before them they either get bitter or sorrowful, so why not laugh it off and just assume technology will advance and do it for us.

again, FUCK GOING GREEN it's bullshit. People aren't honestly into it. It's a busy task for soccer moms and advertising agents.
fuck going green.

peace.

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Permalink Reply by Candypink on September 9, 2008 at 3:34am

I'm pro green. Now those 300 dollar organic jeans. I don't agree with and just plain dumb. But going green is not a fad. Have you people forgot about the70's and 90's Green Booms. I remember back in the early 90's when all the grunge and new age kids were talking Mean Green and world peace. While wearing Save The Whales T shirts. I lived in New Mexico was green city. I remember all that news about people breaking into laps and freeing the animals was on the rise. All those people moving to Tibet. So it never was a fad. Come on people.

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Permalink Reply by Daryl on September 9, 2008 at 7:10am

I remember that stuff, but none of that is relative to what's going on right now. And back int he 90's it was "save the ozone". This going green sit is relative to global warming which is a completely new realization as of 2000. IN the 90's the same concept was called "green house gas effect" now it's got a cutesy little tag name

Candypink said:

I'm pro green. Now those 300 dollar organic jeans. I don't agree with and just plain dumb. But going green is not a fad. Have you people forgot about the70's and 90's Green Booms. I remember back in the early 90's when all the grunge and new age kids were talking Mean Green and world peace. While wearing Save The Whales T shirts. I lived in New Mexico was green city. I remember all that news about people breaking into laps and freeing the animals was on the rise. All those people moving to Tibet. So it never was a fad. Come on people.

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Permalink Reply by Obsidian on September 17, 2008 at 7:01pm

Yea that save the whale stuff died out and now it's "save the polar bears" or something like that. Totally different vibe now that science has objectively confirmed to the conservative elders our world is fucked because of them. People have always been activists for something. Let's not forget the civil rights movement and hippies. Before that, woman's suffrage, banning alcohol, telling King Leopold to get out of the Congo (that was a big forgotten one), emancipation, etc ... On the whole, when people adopt these movements there is a real potential for change, but unfortunately it is only shallow change because people are "trendy activists" and lack substance. As soon as they get tired of it or feel that they've done enough in the movement to feel like they can boast or they feel whatever sins they hold are forgiven, then it is onwards to the next thing. It's why the Civil Rights movement failed and hippies became materialistic yuppies.

Right now it is the "green" thing. It'll get worse and in the future it'll really go no where. People will buy green products but ignore ways to truly go green since truly going green takes actual willingness to change, and are not as glamorizing and ego boosting as just shelfing out the dough and then getting the approval from your peers: "Yea I bought these "green" jeans for 300 bucks!" Ignoring the fact that getting those jeans to you from thousands of miles away consumed a lot of gas, disrupted local economy and community support, and the people who actually handmade the pants not getting their fair share of the money that went into making them. A true green option would be to just buy second hand cloths, buy from local stores, or just make your own stuff. Not so glamorous and you just don't get that instant approval.

In my opinion, the greenest thing people could do is legalize marijuana - grows like a weed and harvests and processes into goods easily thus less environmental impact to grow and produce; you can use it as food and cloths and paper and etc ... If weed were to be legalized tomorrow, then yea this green thing would be legit.

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Permalink Reply by Death is Drunk on September 18, 2008 at 6:36am

^You pretty much summarized it. The ones who are truly dedicated will remain that way while others will drift away once they get tired of the "going green" concept. Too bad some are looking to make a quick profit but never mind that. I have no problem with changing my habits like recycling, reusing plastic containers instead of getting rid of it, using biodegradable products, plugging out electronics, turning off lights and air conditioners when not in use.

One thing I learned while growing up was to cut the plastic soda can holders because the plastic holders tangled or strangled animals. I learned this while watching a Captain Planet episode I loved that show lol.

I'm a member of freecycle the name explains it. The stuff that you don't want be it clothing, electronics, food, furniture, etc anymore instead of throwing away useless "junk" you "recycle" it by giving away the stuff to someone who needs it for free. It's not a bad idea at all I like the concept because everyone can't afford to purchase items that they want even if it's second hand or from a thrift store.

My next step is to purchase a reusable grocery bag. I figure out why not they're durable and reusable and it's about time anyway ;)

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Permalink Reply by Eris on December 9, 2008 at 5:14pm

Going Green IS a fad and it all stems from the fact that people have been taking strides to protect the enviroment for YEARS but when the media hires Brad Pitt to look teary eyed in front of dying polar bears and then slaps the GO GREEN logo on everything, THAT'S when it becomes a fad and a media tool. People swallow this shit and toss money into the pot but in ten years, they'll forget all about it and then go to the next crisis fad...

Sad but that's the way money works.

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Permalink Reply by Eris on December 10, 2008 at 6:11pm

!= said:

^You pretty much summarized it. The ones who are truly dedicated will remain that way while others will drift away once they get tired of the "going green" concept. Too bad some are looking to make a quick profit but never mind that. I have no problem with changing my habits like recycling, reusing plastic containers instead of getting rid of it, using biodegradable products, plugging out electronics, turning off lights and air conditioners when not in use.

One thing I learned while growing up was to cut the plastic soda can holders because the plastic holders tangled or strangled animals. I learned this while watching a Captain Planet episode I loved that show lol.

I'm a member of freecycle the name explains it. The stuff that you don't want be it clothing, electronics, food, furniture, etc anymore instead of throwing away useless "junk" you "recycle" it by giving away the stuff to someone who needs it for free. It's not a bad idea at all I like the concept because everyone can't afford to purchase items that they want even if it's second hand or from a thrift store.

My next step is to purchase a reusable grocery bag. I figure out why not they're durable and reusable and it's about time anyway ;)

When it comes to those bags, just buy a good canvas bag (a big one if you do some heavy duty grocery shopping) from a craft store, design it with something you like and just carry that. They're stronger than those reusable bags from Wal-Mart plus at least you know they're made from canvas. I've started to wonder why many stores don't tell us WHAT those bags are made from....

Hmmmm....

Besides, many people let these things pile up in their homes like plastic bags (hell, at least I can amuse myself with a paper bag and design shit with them) and its kinda sad to see a pile of 'reusable' bags being tossed on the street. :(

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Permalink Reply by Eris on December 12, 2008 at 12:42pm

And something for those that don't like those 'I'm NOT a plastic bag' totes

http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/05/03/plastic-bag-craze-inspires-im-no...

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