You know Golem this is how Religion has fucked with our heads. Giving our souls to blind faith has token away a lot of our ability to think critically and so we say,believe and expect others to believe without question or a constructive explanation. I tried to show Tasasha how she was doing it with her statement and now I'm going to show you how you're doing it with yours. So you say its all connected? Is that it? Because you say its all connected am I supposed to believe you. Without any kind of explaination.(An aethiest is no more a clear-thinker than a Christian....Actions can prove that, not theories and biblical texts.)Hey prove this to me and I will change my point of view. But don't just say this is the way it is and expect me to believe you.
I never accused anyone of being unintelligent. Its a scientific fact that the process of faith does not involve clear thinking. Just use your common sense.If you believe in something to be true without proof of it being true how much thinking does it take to do that.LOL There are things that I have faith in but to give our souls to religion based on faith is and has been destructive to humanity.
Ha Ha Ha Marshe!!! What's happening?I can't even post my reply now. OK That was a message from the few people on this forum that are actually from the counter culture.i hate christians.. they are a disease.... i would have told her...if there was a god he wouldnt allow you to get so old and useless...
Ok, Tasaha, I understand that your not use to this so I'll be gentle and take it slow. But also your into jounalism.So you should have some skin for this. You said you believe in God and Jim Morri..... I mean Jesus.Um, this is gonna be kinda hard. what i believe and how i practice my faith:
1. i believe in God and Jesus. i believe that Jesus died for my sins and rose three days later. 2. i pray and believe that God answers prayers 3. i view the bible as a collection of stories that offer guidelines on how to live a good life. i think there are a lot of good guidelines such as the then commandments, love your neighbor as your love yourself,etc. i do know that the bible has been rewritten many times and things have been added and taken out but i don't believe it invalidates the bible 4. i rarely talk about religion wtih people; my faith and beliefs are private to me so its actually weird for me to be talking about this 5. i also believe other religions are just as valid as christianity; i've started researching various religions of other african origins, vodun, santeria,etc. i see nothing wrong with incorporation aspects of other belief systems into my life 6. i don't go to church really; if i find one that i like then i'll go i'll write more tomorrow
The Lure Lovers said:well i honestly can't answer the question of why horrible things happen to people; i don't know why. nothing i say is gonna change your mind about religion and nothing you say is gonna change my mind about religion (which really shouldn't be our intention anyway). my beliefs work for me and i know in my heart that God is real; i know that sounds illogical to you but that's how i feel.
These are the only questions I asked you in my post. I never asked you why horrible things happen to people. So if you could give an logical answer to these questions I would appreciate it."How could god make sure someone got a parking space in a mall (and answer your prayers).But would let an innocent child die a death that I before wouldn't wish on someone who I thought deserved to die? Why would God cause the death to an innocent child to prove a point or get a message to anyone..
My bad! It was on a thread that you posted on and I didn't pay attention. That was not the same answer.You said you didn't know why bad things happen to people, which I think is untrue.You may not know why they happen to everyone. I trying to understand something here and I hope that you are willing to help me do so.Are you concerned that he answers your prayers and is willing to make sure someone gets a parking spot, but not just let a child die,but tortured to death,burnt alive?Do you question that? Help me understand this.what are you talking about with this statement? I think you're confusing me with someone else cause i dont really post here that much. i have never said or thought anything like that!!!
br /> My answer is still the same. I dont know why God will make sure someone gets a parking spot but let a child die but I don't think God causes death to anyone.
Bettina,Bettina,Bettina!!!rational christians, ppl who don't believe the bible literally but have a healthy faith in The Other/Etheral/Higher Power don't necessarily believe in a personal god that answers prayers for parking spots. i mean, why are you hung up over ONE very, extraordinarly narrow understanding of god that ignorant ppl cling to?
also, your arrogance is pretty bullshit. you've got to admit you live a privileged life and maybe that's why you can prance around on the internets talking about how stupid and blahblahblah people of faith are. i got 51 seconds left on this library computer so i'm out--just read the last few posts.
But thats just it, they don't have to pray or believe in a personal god.Because there is no proof that based on the religious definition god exists.probably not...but yay for progressive/social justice christians.
anyway, like i said before.... it's really easy for ahole atheists who attack christians or religious ppl ad naseum to forget that ppl go through real hardships and get slammed down with nonsensical and cruel things in life and they got to believe in prayer, a personal god who cares, and that there's justice in the end.
Your right, it makes no sense at all. Where talking about toddlers 5,6,etc. yrs old.They haven't even lived yet. If god created everything and could have keep those kids from dying a death like that than he is just as responsible as the people who did it.(Actually more responsible) Just like all of us as part of humanity are responsible.I can't see how anyone can deny that.I respect the fact that you are willing to say you don't know.Most Christians would never do that. I also appreciate your demeanor. Unlike Lesy here, you can talk to people without guns blazing. But I think for me (and I'd wish for you) to respect much less believe in religion,questions like these must be answered. That just makes sense. Especial when giving your soul to something.Yes in the past I have questioned why God lets children die. i know this not gonna make sense to you but now i just think maybe God was ready for those people to be with him in heaven, why did they have to suffer such violent death? i don't know. i don't have any other answer.