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Being Poor and Eating Healthy: It might not be as easy as it seems
Anybody here ever been poor? I mean really poor. I mean you got to figure out how to make $2 feed you for 7 days poor. Well even if you haven't been that poor, if you shop and are less than well to do you may have noticed something. Vegetables and fruit are expensive. Here's something else you may have noticed. Cheap food is relatively high in fat, simple carbohydrates, sodium, and high fructose corn syrup but low in vitamins. The thing is what do you do when faced with this food dilemna? Do you only eat beans, potatoes, and hot dogs to fill your belly or do you starve and get that bell pepper, spinach, and broccoli.?
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Permalink Reply by kifaru on -
You use douche, douchery, and douchy quite a lot. Are you feeling self conscious? So dumb so sad so unoriginal. See ya Bubbles : )
LesYpersound said:eh, not an apology more like letting your douchery fall.
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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on -
You always resort to tactics that show what a "nice guy" you are. Always.
You don't know what a douche really is, anyways. That was a lame "come back", "bubbles".
Witless.
kifaru said:You use douche, douchery, and douchy quite a lot. Are you feeling self conscious? So dumb so sad so unoriginal. See ya Bubbles : )
LesYpersound said:eh, not an apology more like letting your douchery fall.
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Permalink Reply by LesYpersound on -
indeed... witless, insincere, and pointless.
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Permalink Reply by Rosenda on -
I've seen urban community gardens every once in awhile out here. The biggest was the ill fated South Central Farmers setup some years ago. Out here where open land in certain areas is always worth a lot more money to a developer, I was impressed they were able to keep the land as long as they did, and that place was huge. It had to be fenced in properly, so folks would not steal a lot of shit, but I think the main success of those community gardens, is if all the people putting in time labor and seeds and stuff all cooperate with each other and respect each others's stuff. Those folks probably were cool with sharing with others because of the volume they yielded each year.
But these gardens are less and less (the one in my old hood in Silverlake closed less than 6 years after I saw it start, and I doubt the one in Echo Park survived because land is worth a lot more there now with all the gentrification and young folks moving in wanting property and apartments) and that's kinda where one person who owns the land wants to make a living off of it more than they want to let it be used for public gardening space to grow food.
I think on an individual level, it's about time. I'd love to grow stuff in my huge backyard but I work full time and have been in school evenings since last spring and it's exhausting and hard to make energy to follow through with that. It's a commitment.
I kinda wish there were more people within city limits where all us regular working folks live that were able to devote their own garden space to growing stuff and selling it. The corner markets are usually fucked up in what they offer you, and the big markets gouge you for not that great quality produce, and the organic/whole foods places are not closeby and charge a way hell of a lot of money.
But you do the best you can with what you have. I'm having to revisit all this subject of having good food intake balanced with what I can afford on a sustainable basis. Yeah, I'd probably be concerned about people stealing shit but I'm concerned about that anyway with nothing growing in my yard anyway (yes there are folks in the robbing homes/apartments business in my hood as well as selling "chemicals" and the usual weed), so if I had the energy to really set up some growing produce for my own use and keep it up, I'd probably just opt to grow more to account for stealing.
I hate to even think that way but I grew up here a city kid, and you just gotta factor that in as much as it might piss me off.
The local cops would not fucking care if someone steals your herbs and tomatoes you grew in your yard, cause they barely care when a car or stuff in your home is stolen. This is on my head because the neighbors in the big house across from me got robbed long ago.
About the composting thing........I found out from a friend that lived here last year that the city of LA not only provides those usual trash cans to residents (green for cut grass/dirt, black for food waste, blue for recyclables), but for $20 you can get a big huge composting bin for your yard. They even give you info on how to use it too. I had no idea that service was there!
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Permalink Reply by conspicuious green on -
This year I have been the poorest I have ever been. My diet consist of a whole heap of things i would'nt touch normally my diet now is mainly potatos and chicken lol (crying on the inside)
I even take regular trips to my mums house to eat food which is a shame because my mum isn't known for her skill in the kitchen. My cooking skills involve boiling, melting cheese, and sandwich based snanks. I've always loved my veg, and meat was a last resort and cheese in moderation was the only dairy my body would give a semi chance. The price of soya milk is nuts and herbal teas run along the same lines... damned health food shops.
I get this weird sluggish filled with crap feeling eating noodles all the time. Being wheat intolerant and lactose intolerant makes it harder to find comfort foods =]
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Permalink Reply by kifaru on
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Try millet. Go to the indian spots and shop. I don't mean a corner shop but a Indo/Pak market and it will be labeled jowar. You can get millet products. Hit the Sudanese spots for sorghum products and it will be labeled durra.
conspicuious green said:This year I have been the poorest I have ever been. My diet consist of a whole heap of things i would'nt touch normally my diet now is mainly potatos and chicken lol (crying on the inside)
I even take regular trips to my mums house to eat food which is a shame because my mum isn't known for her skill in the kitchen. My cooking skills involve boiling, melting cheese, and sandwich based snanks. I've always loved my veg, and meat was a last resort and cheese in moderation was the only dairy my body would give a semi chance. The price of soya milk is nuts and herbal teas run along the same lines... damned health food shops.
I get this weird sluggish filled with crap feeling eating noodles all the time. Being wheat intolerant and lactose intolerant makes it harder to find comfort foods =]
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Permalink Reply by conspicuious green on
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cool, thank you. will give it a go
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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on
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I hate to say it but you're going to have to learn how to cook to make that chicken and potatoes taste better. I'm also quite poor and a pen pal gave me great tips- lentils and seasonings. Lentils are cheap sources of protein and seasonings help a lot- parsley, oregano, black pepper, jalepenos w/ melted cheese chicken skillet w/ rice. If it weren't for orange/lemons, seasonings and stuff I'd be lost. I had to learn how to bake a juicy chicken breast, season fish (when affordable) and make mashed (edible) potatoes. It's the only way.
conspicuious green said:This year I have been the poorest I have ever been. My diet consist of a whole heap of things i would'nt touch normally my diet now is mainly potatos and chicken lol (crying on the inside)
I even take regular trips to my mums house to eat food which is a shame because my mum isn't known for her skill in the kitchen. My cooking skills involve boiling, melting cheese, and sandwich based snanks. I've always loved my veg, and meat was a last resort and cheese in moderation was the only dairy my body would give a semi chance. The price of soya milk is nuts and herbal teas run along the same lines... damned health food shops.
I get this weird sluggish filled with crap feeling eating noodles all the time. Being wheat intolerant and lactose intolerant makes it harder to find comfort foods =]
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Permalink Reply by Fashionfreak on -
my dad makes lentils, its popular in trinidad. you can find a really good trinidadian recipe online on how to prepare them.
Mlle d. Sade said:I hate to say it but you're going to have to learn how to cook to make that chicken and potatoes taste better. I'm also quite poor and a pen pal gave me great tips- lentils and seasonings. Lentils are cheap sources of protein and seasonings help a lot- parsley, oregano, black pepper, jalepenos w/ melted cheese chicken skillet w/ rice. If it weren't for orange/lemons, seasonings and stuff I'd be lost. I had to learn how to bake a juicy chicken breast, season fish (when affordable) and make mashed (edible) potatoes. It's the only way.
conspicuious green said:This year I have been the poorest I have ever been. My diet consist of a whole heap of things i would'nt touch normally my diet now is mainly potatos and chicken lol (crying on the inside)
I even take regular trips to my mums house to eat food which is a shame because my mum isn't known for her skill in the kitchen. My cooking skills involve boiling, melting cheese, and sandwich based snanks. I've always loved my veg, and meat was a last resort and cheese in moderation was the only dairy my body would give a semi chance. The price of soya milk is nuts and herbal teas run along the same lines... damned health food shops.
I get this weird sluggish filled with crap feeling eating noodles all the time. Being wheat intolerant and lactose intolerant makes it harder to find comfort foods =]
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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on
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Fashionfreak said:my dad makes lentils, its popular in trinidad. you can find a really good trinidadian recipe online on how to prepare them.
thanks, I'll look for that. Lentils are the hardest thing to season for me.
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Permalink Reply by conspicuious green on
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Today i ate chicken mash...:-D woohp! hooray for keeping within my budget
I'm 24, I live alone, cooking has always seemed like something you make time for and takes ages. When i'm hungry i just want to eat, NOW and then on with my life. I've got some pretty random eating habbits due to intolerances and weird teenage memories. Buying spices and other lil things that add up when your as broke as, then taking time to prepare. i've made improve ments on chicken and potatos, chicken and mustard mash, chicken bits and honey mash(plz dont try this at home) chicken and onion mash (the winner)
yes, this i must do. I remember the first time i put stock into rice, i thought i was god like lol i can roast an edible piece of garlic chilli chicken but i cant pretend i'm doing anything more than throwing spices around and hoping i'll still be able to wash the flavour off in the sink if it goes wrong.
do you think vegan living would be best? or would i just push at the limits of my food buget. i need to gets me away from that sexy cheese. I was a vegetarian many moons ago, i became very unwell after my recovery the smell and taste of meat was sickening to me.
i'm going to bug my friend and hope her mum will show me how to cook using millet and durra... and tell me what they are too
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