... the other Black experience
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Permalink Reply by CocoaPuss Zine on Well it seems you failed to understand anything about my message but only making it more obvious of the point I was trying to make. I am human and as other humans have done since the beginning of time when someone finds you attractive you typically date them. Whether or not their personality is worth a crap is whether or not you stay. And anyone saying they date men solely for their personality is bullshitting and trying to seem better than others. Yes I think I'm a pretty girl and yes I get reassured of it everyday. It's not egotistical or bragging it's just the truth and I know it as well as you. It's not that I think every black woman has low self esteem because I didn't say that it's just that in comparison to light skinned girls many think they don't have a chance because time after time it's been proven that many just go for the typical good haired, light skinned, girl. And I'm not saying this in reference to me but just because I know many men who think and feel this way.
BTW, I find it odd that you say if I choose to be with someone because they think I'm pretty and that I'm just some prize but then on the other hand your avatar is a picture of your breasts? If that's not someone seeking attention and trying to get someone based off of how she's looking then idk wat is.....
CocoaPuss Zine said:as a mixed girl you feel like you have an advantage over some other women, and then you say it's more than just looks?
#1. this thread is stupid and what can you expect from someone like hidaya? i'm embarrassed to even be writing this.
#2. if a guy likes you because of your skin color and you date him because of that, you're a stupid ass bitch, a prize, and shouldn't really be bragging about that.
#3. arianna, you seriously just contradicted yourself. the advantages you think you have just exist in your own head. you assume all black women have low self esteem and all guys are attracted to your standard of beauty. don't assume so much about black people.
#4. it's funny that when mlle said she wants to marry jewish, wheredawhitewomenat had to ask why, when he does the same fucking thing to white women pretty much all the time.
#5 sham-wow
Arianna Garcia said:I feel that there has been a damper but on african american women because of hair, complexion, and just overall personality. I feel that as a mixed girl I have had and do have an advantage over some other women. Not being egotistical but it is the truth and many others will tell you this. I was once taking an african amercian heritage class and a lot if not all the darker skinned females in that class really ragged on light skinned females and how we feel we're better than they are. I think that's a common misconception, it's not that we think we're better than you, it's just that when you look at us and then look at potential suitor and then look back at yourself you say " Well why would he want me when he could have her." History shows that women with "good hair" " Carmel complexion" and of a mixed race are seen more exotic and more appealing. And I feel men know what they want. If they want a darker skinned female they will have that darker skinned female. If they want that lighter skinned female then they will have that lighter skinned female. So before you go and think that some men are worshipping these lighter skinned women over darker skinned women or women with a certain type of hair I think you need to look into yourself and realize that there's more to it than just looks.
Permalink Reply by CocoaPuss Zine on Sham-wow indeed. Just because some black men prefer lighter skin and straighter hair (and as a result, women with darker skin and nappier hair feel bad about themselves) does not make lighter skin and straighter hair more attractive- wrap your head around that. It means every one is brainwashed into accepting dehumanizing standards. Yes some men are colorstruck but that doesn't make the aesthetic "better" than the other.The colorist beauty standard fucks us all over.
And yes, if you date a guy who wants you because of your skin or hair you are a prize, a token, a possession of his and it will never end well. You'd think most women would realize this is psychologically taxing and abusive. Don't fall prey to the above mind trap, don't abuse yourself and don't let it abuse you, Arianna. Don't become some man's octaroon (sp? They were slave women specifically bred to look white to please their masters who wished to have bed wenches).
I'd still prefer to marry Jewish. Can someone hook me up?
Edit: Hidaya was a huge racist troll - she hated hispanic people (cause she was a separatist) and thankfully, most of us were intolerant of her hatred. Her threads were mostly hate speech and completely incendiary while providing nothing positive.
But, I will say if some man wants to dehumanize you and take you as a fair skinned prize, make sure the material exchange covers the emotional and psychological check you write to him.
Edit: CPZ, on 2nd reading I realized Arianna wasn't being colorist or saying that aesthetic was better. She was saying the same thing we are; "So before you go and think that some men are worshipping these lighter skinned women over darker skinned women or women with a certain type of hair I think you need to look into yourself and realize that there's more to it than just looks."
So never mind what I just wrote. ^_^
Permalink Reply by Compound Egret on I'd still prefer to marry Jewish. Can someone hook me up?
Permalink Reply by Rage_Proletaire on What's wrong with being a prize? No really and I'm not talking about being a sex tool that a man fucks and then puts on display to prove his "success" and who has no control over her own life. What I mean is someone who when they see you they are proud of you and feel lucky to be with you. The kind of feeling that makes a person feel like they KNOW they wouldn't trade their relationship with you for anybody else no matter what. Someone that they think to themselves "I have got everything that I want with this person."
Permalink Reply by MissE on Mlle d. Sade said:I'd still prefer to marry Jewish. Can someone hook me up?
How about trying a Jewish oriented message board or Facebook group? No need to stand in Victoria's secret looking for their work boot section.
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Permalink Reply by lyfenlyn on aren't there dating sites for jewish people? there probably are.
Mlle d. Sade said:Sham-wow indeed. Just because some black men prefer lighter skin and straighter hair (and as a result, women with darker skin and nappier hair feel bad about themselves) does not make lighter skin and straighter hair more attractive- wrap your head around that. It means every one is brainwashed into accepting dehumanizing standards. Yes some men are colorstruck but that doesn't make the aesthetic "better" than the other.The colorist beauty standard fucks us all over.
And yes, if you date a guy who wants you because of your skin or hair you are a prize, a token, a possession of his and it will never end well. You'd think most women would realize this is psychologically taxing and abusive. Don't fall prey to the above mind trap, don't abuse yourself and don't let it abuse you, Arianna. Don't become some man's octaroon (sp? They were slave women specifically bred to look white to please their masters who wished to have bed wenches).
I'd still prefer to marry Jewish. Can someone hook me up?
Edit: Hidaya was a huge racist troll - she hated hispanic people (cause she was a separatist) and thankfully, most of us were intolerant of her hatred. Her threads were mostly hate speech and completely incendiary while providing nothing positive.
But, I will say if some man wants to dehumanize you and take you as a fair skinned prize, make sure the material exchange covers the emotional and psychological check you write to him.
Edit: CPZ, on 2nd reading I realized Arianna wasn't being colorist or saying that aesthetic was better. She was saying the same thing we are; "So before you go and think that some men are worshipping these lighter skinned women over darker skinned women or women with a certain type of hair I think you need to look into yourself and realize that there's more to it than just looks."
So never mind what I just wrote. ^_^
Permalink Reply by lyfenlyn on my sister's boyfriend is jewish and he is the cooles motherf---er ever hehe.
Permalink Reply by lyfenlyn on kifaru said:What's wrong with being a prize? No really and I'm not talking about being a sex tool that a man fucks and then puts on display to prove his "success" and who has no control over her own life. What I mean is someone who when they see you they are proud of you and feel lucky to be with you. The kind of feeling that makes a person feel like they KNOW they wouldn't trade their relationship with you for anybody else no matter what. Someone that they think to themselves "I have got everything that I want with this person."
… Well, like Mlle. Said, nothing wrong with being a prize, if you wish it so. Ideally, there should be an even exchange; payment for being chained to a pedestal in some ivory tower somewhere. I forget the “exact” phrase, but there’s a saying that you cripple/straitjacket a person by placing them on a pedestal.
And from my experience (and presumably others), prize hunters = novelty seekers. Besides, some people value the pursuit far more than the prize itself.
... When someone tells you that you’re everything they want in a partner, they’re (obviously) speaking in the present tense, and probably unwilling to afford you room to grow and evolve in the future. You’ll be a (pretty) lifeless nub, an mere extension of someone else’s wank-dream.
Permalink Reply by CocoaPuss Zine on I wonder what work boots from Victoria's Secret would look like?
Compound Egret said:Mlle d. Sade said:I'd still prefer to marry Jewish. Can someone hook me up?
How about trying a Jewish oriented message board or Facebook group? No need to stand in Victoria's secret looking for their work boot section.
Permalink Reply by LesYpersound on Certain noses are like an aphrodisiac to me. Plus, personality-wise I have a lot in common with the stereotypical passive aggressive Jewish male.
Wheredawhitewomenat said:...why?
Mlle d. Sade said:I'd rather marry Jewish.
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