... the other Black experience
Crust punk?
Any crust punk bands that have some african americans in them or sing bout african american issues, ive been listening to alot of los crudos and i feel left out!
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Permalink Reply by Darkness Unlimited* on -
Why feel left out? Just because a particular band doesn't have an [exact] pulse on your issue? Antifa issues are pretty damned universal, after-all! You get heat when-ever you go to shows, or something?
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Permalink Reply by grindcore on -
Yeah, you are totally right. I mean the issues that are presented by the crust punk bands I love are more relatable than one would think, but there are so many more issues that aren't being address especially ones pertaining to the african amercian community not being potrayed by actual african americans like gentrification, inequality in education, etc, etc. I think crust is the ultimate form of protest music in punk form, so yeah it would be cool to see a band that looks like me and sings about issues that pertain to me
Darkness Unlimited* said:Why feel left out? Just because a particular band doesn't have an [exact] pulse on your issue? Antifa issues are pretty damned universal, after-all! You get heat when-ever you go to shows, or something?
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Permalink Reply by kmfcm on -
I never really thought of that myself, possibly because most of the crust punk I listen to isn't even from the states, but places like Sweden and Japan.
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Permalink Reply by Darkness Unlimited* on
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Well unfortunately (& for reasons as ov yet, unknown) Atl. Blacks just don't have a stomach for TRUE, extreme music. It really does seem like most "Afro"Punks stop right at Punk. I've seen ALOT ov Black punks, actually. I've seen, maybe, two Black Crusters.
A huge loss, i feel. Seeing as how, if any fucking thing, CRUST is [almost] exsclusively political, anti-racist/imperialist/facist/etc.
"Punk" is for Whites who live in suburban ghettos & have never known hardship.
CRUST is for Blacks that know goddamn better!
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Permalink Reply by Darkness Unlimited* on
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DJ Random Brotha said:
According to who? Wimps who can't handle TRUE music?Or it could be that it just sounds terrible.
Darkness Unlimited* said:Well unfortunately (& for reasons as ov yet, unknown) Atl. Blacks just don't have a stomach for TRUE, extreme music. It really does seem like most "Afro"Punks stop right at Punk. I've seen ALOT ov Black punks, actually. I've seen, maybe, two Black Crusters.
A huge loss, i feel. Seeing as how, if any fucking thing, CRUST is [almost] exsclusively political, anti-racist/imperialist/facist/etc.
"Punk" is for Whites who live in suburban ghettos & have never known hardship.
CRUST is for Blacks that know goddamn better!
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Permalink Reply by grindcore on
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Ok guys, seriously, we need to calm down. DJ Random brotha, the true ascetic of punk is diy, do it yourself, so essentially the purpose of producing said music that sounds like it was recorded with an mp3 player is because its the most accessible device to record music on. If punk is being formally produced, its not punk. However, that doesn't degrade its meaning in music, nor does it degrade a musicians musicianship, its just as important as something that is produced by pharrell. The point of this thread was to find out what I already knew, afro-punk is a farce. I refuse define myself as such because the issues that being addressed in these bands. I feel like this website, although it didn't start out like this, is just for black people who feel alternative. It is important to realize that the alternative culture is becoming more apathetic than in the past, people look to crust for protest music, just like people used to look to hip hop for protest music, there is still some there, but drake is more popular than public enemy, and it will stay that way. Its sad because the state of affairs within our nation and around the world is strong enough to where a medium such as crust punk should take such topics and discuss them with others, but like i said we are too apathetic. Anyway, if anyone knows of any black crustie bands, or even with a couple of african americans in them, talking about topics that pertain to them, let me know, for i will be at their shows!
Also, Brother DJ Random Brotha, please note that crust punk, hardcore, all of the scenes mean more than the music itself (although alot of it sounds better than some of the stuff on this site), its camaraderie, people coming together singing about the same topics that appeal to them, seeing your friends from other parts of the country visit you while youre on tour, I encourage you go to do a diy show and youll see what I mean, where are you from, I could probably suggest a venue for you!
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Permalink Reply by kmfcm on
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you just proved him right with that comment.
That's exactly like the kids who say "that screamin' stuff is crap".
DJ Random Brotha said:Damos, anybody can sound like a dog vomiting record it, and call it music. Real musicians take time out to produce quality music , not some shit that sounds like it was recorded with an mp3 player.
I'm a "wimp"? Grow up.
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Permalink Reply by grindcore on
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No, I'm saying afro-punk is a farce because if it was truly a medium for punk music discussion, you wouldn't have said that crust punk sounds like "some shit that sounds like it was recorded with an mp3 player" because its a part of punk. Just as much as the nice recorded stuff im guessing you consider punk, i guess . And like I said before the true aesthetic of punk, is "bathroom diy". Do it Yourself, I don't see how I can make that any clearer. And to jump off my elitist diy snob throne, although, its taken a long ass time to build my repitoire of knowledge so I don't see myself being off for too long, by you saying only "real" musicians take their time getting their stuff produced doesn't make you elitist? not even the slightest? That's like saying only real artists have their stuff in galleries, artists that do graffiti wall murals are shit. What you are saying doesn't make sense. How about instead of insulting people, you define what punk means to you because clearly we don't have the same definition, and there is no way we can learn from each other unless we understand where we are coming from.
And in addition to, I wasn't whining about anything, I was stating the truth, and now that I look at what I wrote, I now see why there aren't any all black crust bands, hmm. Just because I said the title of Afro-punk is a farce doesn't mean its a negative connotation for this website, its more like a misrepresentation, alot of the bands on here arent punk, doesnt mean they arent awesome, but they arent punk. Like earl greyhound badass band, just not punk, by my definition anyway, you could refute by telling me that some of these bands embrace the diy standard, but I haven't seen any of these bands touring the popular diy venues around the states, maybe because this site may be too commercial, i dont know.
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Permalink Reply by Ghettopunkrocker on -
Well, if it's an issue and you believe in the DIY ethic. Just create your own project.
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Permalink Reply by Ghettopunkrocker on
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Again with the "who's more punk, more metal, this isn't punk" thing. Yeah, I've noticed that there a few more "alternative" kids. But, like it or not genres and cultures progress. Regarding Crust Punk, not bad. On a related note, I've been listening to CBT and GUT. Seriously, if anyone talks shit about crunk, rap etc. and calls that sexist and likes Pornogrind...they're a hypocrite.
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Permalink Reply by kmfcm on
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Is it the music itself you don't like? or just the recording quality?
There's some crust punk that isn't recorded badly
(Tragedy, Fukpig, Disfear, etc.)
DJ Random Brotha said:Unlike my previous post, care to elaborate?
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Permalink Reply by grindcore on
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Yeah d.i.y. venues can be from your bedroom to wherever i guess. As for stating that its too commercial, I didn't mean in general, but I meant in terms of crust bands, that is why there aren't any crust bands on this site. You are welcome to have your opinion about crust punk, but to trash it, that sucks, and goes against what I think the movement of "afro-punk" is about, this message was for me to see if anyone knew any crust/political hardcore bands that had majority black members. Not to redefine punk to today's standards or the like. I said that stuff about the site, because its not solely punk, and that is ok. its the punk ascetic that is the basis of the different music on this site, but in that spirit, calling other kinds of music crappy without giving legitmate reasons as to why you don't support it other than the way its recorded is just negative, not productive, and certainly not progressive in what is "afro-punk"
bands im referring to in clarification is dropdead, los crudos, witch hunt, i object, etc etc...
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