Crust punk?

Any crust punk bands that have some african americans in them or sing bout african american issues, ive been listening to alot of los crudos and i feel left out!

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Permalink Reply by Vodou on July 20, 2010 at 5:03pm

yeah scuds..THANK YOU I forgot his name. sick bassist.

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Permalink Reply by vodka on July 20, 2010 at 8:32pm

yeah Justin I think or it may be Dustin my hearing is bad these days. But the cat from Another Kind Of Evil I saw last night totally ripped on the bass. He was coming out of nowhere with some riffs. He was like finger picking with all four fingers and doing taps with his thumb at the same time!!!! On a couple songs he played a twelve string bass. Check 'em out they're outta Asheville.

Vodou said:

yeah scuds..THANK YOU I forgot his name. sick bassist.

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Permalink Reply by grindcore on August 3, 2010 at 8:32pm

I agree too, to an extent.just because I believe in addressing african american issues in music, doesn't mean I have created this black white spectrum of debate. The debate I want to create is another attack against white supremacy aka anti-oppresion(which has caused all those instances (including blacks being racist against themselves and against others as you listed below) by adding another point of view. Many of those places that you listed, listen to punk hardcore even some political metal from there, and you will see that the majority of their writing stems from their experience, and then connecting it to the global experience. My question was really to probe the question of asking when will we African Americans believe that our experience is good enough for this type of medium, that our story can be found in other communities, and we need to expose our issues collectively. The great things about these genres (punk, hip hop) is the collective aesthetic to the music, this unit of spreading information and making people aware about different situations without censorship is what I think keeps me and alot of other people as they get older still into this shit. In the case of Sherrod, and our specific battle with this "post racialized" society bullshit we are dealing with, we are dealing with many issues that other communities, that may attend these shows are not aware of. I would rather her a fellow crusitie tell me through song, about whats really going down in Arizona, than black reporter joe bob with a midwest accent on fox 8 news. And I especially think its important to exercise this form of music as another source of resistance. Looking back on my comment that I wrote a year ago (my mind always grows, I like it that way) what I wrote was bullshit. Nobody is fucking apathetic, but at the same time people aren't aware of how many different avenues that have to express "Fuck the System' (which should turn into "No more system" in my opinion) other than the ways our forefathers did. When I asked this question as well, I didn't expect to get an answer, but instead to argue over stupid shit with folks on this site, and I did. There are people out there doing the dang thing (the majority of them not on this website), not as much as I would like but there are some (locally and globally) :

Repressao Social ( these cats their scene, they talk about black genocide, they are cool)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9vke6jcw2o

migra violenta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n2ht2H4vyo

And to leave with an important song for these times:
Aus-Rotten Xenophobia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnCyWEjj0aA

In all, I just want a music scene that involves crust, to be like cheers or taxi (tv show) evryone gets along were there are a couple of people that look like me, and are 100% against white supremacy- is that too much to ask!!!??? jk

vodka said:

Hmmm I played in a few crust bands over the years. Promote quite a few crust shows in ATL and I think Crust comes from a more Humanist standpoint if it were. Whereas things are not put in the perspective of one race of people but how things are messing up the planet for everyone. Issues such as racism, gentrification and poverty are not solely BLACK issues. But rather a Human problem. In my daily walk I run across more openly racist African Americans. I've been to places in the Appalachia where whites are poorer than most Afro-ghettos, I've been to Spain where gentrification has literally caused an entire high school student body to become homeless. I've been to Mexico where the food that is being grown in a village is to fuel somebody's car in another country. I've been to China where the economic explosion of capitalism is destroying the eco-system in which they live.
Crust to me expands beyond mere "black and white" issues and delves deeper into the grayer shadows than your average punk band.Typically your average Crusty is more involved with their communities, usually more educated or better informed and better traveled than you typical Mall Punk. In Crust "issues" are seen as something that cannot be addressed simply on experience in terms of race alone. But they must be solved by our experiences as a whole Humanity. Things such as racism, gentrification, poverty and sexism are symptoms of a deeper illness within in our collective whole society. And while Punk says "Fuck the System!" Crust has examined the system beyond the visual symptoms of a sick society and pronounce "We (humanity) are the System and We are the disease." While Punk falls into apathy because it cannot change the system. Crust rises with HOPE because it knows though world may not change I will become less of the world and I will change.

grindcore said:
Ok guys, seriously, we need to calm down. DJ Random brotha, the true ascetic of punk is diy, do it yourself, so essentially the purpose of producing said music that sounds like it was recorded with an mp3 player is because its the most accessible device to record music on. If punk is being formally produced, its not punk. However, that doesn't degrade its meaning in music, nor does it degrade a musicians musicianship, its just as important as something that is produced by pharrell. The point of this thread was to find out what I already knew, afro-punk is a farce. I refuse define myself as such because the issues that being addressed in these bands. I feel like this website, although it didn't start out like this, is just for black people who feel alternative. It is important to realize that the alternative culture is becoming more apathetic than in the past, people look to crust for protest music, just like people used to look to hip hop for protest music, there is still some there, but drake is more popular than public enemy, and it will stay that way. Its sad because the state of affairs within our nation and around the world is strong enough to where a medium such as crust punk should take such topics and discuss them with others, but like i said we are too apathetic. Anyway, if anyone knows of any black crustie bands, or even with a couple of african americans in them, talking about topics that pertain to them, let me know, for i will be at their shows!

Also, Brother DJ Random Brotha, please note that crust punk, hardcore, all of the scenes mean more than the music itself (although alot of it sounds better than some of the stuff on this site), its camaraderie, people coming together singing about the same topics that appeal to them, seeing your friends from other parts of the country visit you while youre on tour, I encourage you go to do a diy show and youll see what I mean, where are you from, I could probably suggest a venue for you!