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I hate Black History!
So i was on youtube and i saw a part of a white girls confession on hating black history. Her reasons were that it separates the races and she is jewish but she doesnt have a day and doesnt dwell on jewish flight or troubles. But in fairness i cant really say what she said entirely cause i didnt see it all. But other videos from some white people have been that black history month is boring and useless and were all of the human race and dont need it anymore. A guy of irish heritage said they dont have a month and he doesnt really care so why do black people have to have a month to remember all the bad things. Another guy said he is glad its the shortest month and isnt into it. But some white people said it is about remembering a horrible past in america history and achievements blacks made until now. The african Americans said the same thing in their response. Personally, I dont celebrate it entirely but i am glad its here and i do learn more about my people and there achievements. I think we cant force ppl to learn about black history month and yes they have their opinions but they will never get rid of the month. We fought hard to get that month! Plus its short so all the whinning and complaining can cease cause its only one month. People who complain about why black people always talk about slavery and all this stuff probarly dont want to aknowlegde that america has a horrible past or maybe the new generation doesnt care and are living in the moment. I think living in the moment is fine but to learn about a history of a people whether black, hispanic, chinese these things are important to learn about their achievements and their horrible past with america. Im a history major so im seen as a bore or werido but we need to keep these important months and teach them to the new generation so they wont be closed minded and can be open to other cultures . When i was in school in may of this year a white guy in my class said he live up north and they never talked about black history and it was not until he came to georgia when he was a kid that he learned about it and still is learning. I worry about this generation sometimes but then again its up to them to be open or not. What can you do but kepp on keeping on. But black people arent going anywhere and our culture is grounded and rooted firm hopefully!..
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Permalink Reply by Chris Asrk-pa El on -
That good keep learning about our past and explain to the people "hating" on our month that they only feel that way because 1.they never went through it and 2. they never experienced the full effect of the aftermath of being black. Now the jewish and irish 'had' their struggles in the past, but has never and probably will never experience hate and discrimination like us. And@TARA-~calm down~
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Permalink Reply by LesYpersound on -
"she is jewish but she doesnt have a day and doesnt dwell on jewish flight or troubles."
lol.
"Im a history major so im seen as a bore or werido but we need to keep these important months and teach them to the new generation so they wont be closed minded and can be open to other cultures ."
imo we need something more meaningful than a month. i'm into ethnic studies and american studies and the like, we should know our history and i think for high school students and even younger it should be taught that history is told by the victors and it's up to people who ask the right questions, do the research, and are on a quest to transmit and explain their lived and family-lived or community-lived truth.
basically, i'd love to see social justice and community-references seep into the education of youth when it comes to history classes... make it real and reference our lived experiences and put it into the greater context of what's happened, what's happening, and really bring it back that human beings and agendas are responsible (intentionally or not) for the things that happen to us in terms of social welfare, health of communities, and so on.
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Permalink Reply by Q Manchu on
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what people dont seem to realize or understand or perhaps refuse to acknowledge is that the achievements and accomplishments of blacks to this country's and the rest of the worlds has been deliberately and purposely eliminated in order to justify americas treatment of us.and to keep rest of the world blind to americas treatment of us.no other group in this country can make that claim,@least on the same level. also to keep future generations subservient and in a state of disarray and dependant on the european. also to eliminate and discourage any type of unity between us.divide&conquer. there shouldve never been a need for a designated month. it shouldve and should always be included as a part of world history. i hear all the time other ethnic groups say 'our ancestors came over here with nothing,didnt even speak the language and still were able to survive and strive,why cant u blacks do the same?'.but they never acknowledge the fact that there were/are laws made against us, to learn to read and write,or to gather more than two in a group in public and a host of other such obstacles that only we had to face.why isnt it obvious?america only makes up 13% of the worlds population,we only make up 12% of americas population, yet as paul mooney put it, the black american man is the most imitated and influential being on the planet. bar none! once we were brought here we were rob of our name our language our culture our religion our god and we fucked up by taking on our oppressor's religion. we are, in fact, descendants of POW's born behind enemy lines.our history is as important and significant as any others,especially to our children.
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Permalink Reply by LadyLinkMaster on -
qmanchu said it! thank you! personally, i want to know about the black scientists, doctors, artists, builders, inventors, musicians of all types of music (some of the best opera singers are black or african), politicians, teachers, history makers and shakers, etc. these next few words are my opinion........i don't use the word "slavery". i don't call february "black history month". i use the phrase "white mental illness month". we were not slaves, we were victims of "white mental illness". UNDERSTAND, i don't think that all white people or other races of people suffer from "wmi", but there were enough to make history. if a black man looked.......looked......imma say it again.......LOOKED at a white woman, he would get slung, hung and turned into dung. CRIMES were committed against dark folks and the shit still continues today. i live in atlanta, trust and know, in the last ten years there have been at least two hangings of black men in the east side of atlanta. some rednecks tied a metal chain to the neck of a tu-pac iron statue and drove off, ripping his head off. oh, and let's not forget the hell some black people went through in small towns when obama got into office. if my "people of many browns" would stop....stop and make your money flow among brown hands, cover your electric outlet and stop letting hateful ass people plug into your creative energy, you will truly see the "lighter" human race FALL!!! i like everybody, but not everybody likes brown......just because we are brown with tightly coiled hair. BROWN. hhhmmmm. i find it amazing that the color BROWN has started soooooooooo much highly historical shit! ha ha ha ha, uh, we ain't goin nowhere, the black woman is tooooo delicous and the black man is toooooo fine!!! i can't get too mad when i see an interacial couple. black people are flawless and beautiful and the world enjoys our company.........but they will never admit that.
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@ladylinkmaster thank you! i wasnt much interested in history growing up,it was boring and pretty much the same ol shit every year and being only black kid in almost every class from 1st grade til i graduated high school, it was embarrassing listening to white teachers teach this crap,especially slavery and the civil rights,not to mention the year Roots came out. man!!! talk about all eyes on me! i actually had a teacher apologize to me in class for having to teach about "black english"also i was born in 66 on south side of chicago where subconciously everything that was going on my first five years of life with the movement the panthers the gangs and mayor daley seeped in.so i always knew there was more to us then what was being let on.I remember hearing on the radio every sunday morning repeatedly the message "I am somebody"Public Enemy proved me right not only did they validate what i already felt and knew ,they gave a voice to those like me and articulated my/our frustrations.i could never explain to anyone what is was like but if you watch everybody hates chris,when he is @ school, that shit nails it right on the head! especially the characters of caruso and mrs. morello, perfect portrayals of the attitudes they had towards me/us .only thing is my only friend wasnt white he was an asian kid from laos and turned out to be my only real friend thru those years.so i feel you. @fructose soda thanx 4 compliment on the name which i cant take credit for,it was bestowed upon me by a good friend,which i think most good nicknames are.ive never been outta the states so i can only comment on what ive experienced in my life here.itz good to disagree and have opposing views so we can conversate and share, i believe that is the purpose of these forums.good way 2 learn and perhaps solve issues.@ least get different perspectives than just your own.the point i was trying to express is there is an importance for true black history being told. once i heard P E's message(along with the likes of KRS,Fishbone and Bob Marley) it gave me such a thirst for knowledge i never had before. i had graduated high school already,but now i wanted to read and study more about us and our contributions,(check out a book called "Lies my teacher told me")which i said i kinda already felt i knew but now im finding proof and others who feel the same.as for no laws made before we were born not affecting us,i strongly disagree. to this day if a group of black men(more than 2) hang out too long on the block the police will show up to itimidate and brake it up.i see it all the time.
On February 8, 1924, when the state of Texas electrocuted its first five prisoners, all five were black men. The disproportionate execution of African Americans continues in today's administration of the death penalty, in Texas and across the nation. Nationally, blacks are represented on death row at three-and-a-half times their proportion in the whole population.
Ninety-two percent of the juveniles on death row in Texas are African-American. The victim's race also influences the state's decision. Half of the people murdered in the United States are black, yet of those prosecuted for capital murder and executed, less than 15 percent murdered a black person. It is rare for a white person to get the death penalty for killing an African American. In the U.S. since 1976, when the death penalty was resumed in many states, 142 black inmates have been executed for killing white victims. In that same period, eleven whites have been put to death for killing blacks. Until Bill King's February death sentence, no white person in Texas had ever received the death penalty for killing an African American, with one exception. In 1854, a white man killed the favorite slave of another white man and was executed for what was essentially considered a property crime.
Texas is also by far the national leader in executions, responsible for one-third of the 566 U.S. executions since 1976. And although 10 percent of the state's population is African-American, thirty-one percent of those executed have been black. (Nationally, African Americans comprise 12 percent of the population, but 34 percent of those executed.)
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Permalink Reply by Yank on -
I dunno. In 2011, I think it's bullshit to literally segregate it into its own month.
All of it should be mixed in to basic American history. Teaching it the way it is now is literally "separate but equal," fuck that.
Even white kids need to view it as their history too by virtue of being Americans, not something remote and "othered."
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Permalink Reply by Yank on
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I hear ya.
We're pretty mixed too, East African and Central European and now a splash of Mayan with my fiancee.
I guess my thinking is, if America's biggest problem was marginalizing and suppressing minority rights and experiences, the solution is opening up America so that it includes everything that was brushed under the rug. No one really argues about that.
But setting up two or more separate, parallel histories to address what's been hidden is just a stopgap, and will ultimately keep the nation divided, rather than creating a single entity.Old history: 13 years of Events taught from the single perspective of WASPs.
New History: 13 years of Events taught from the perspective of Wasps, Immigrant Whites, Native Peoples, and African Americans, and Hispanics.
That approach will make it much easier for minorities to see their ongoing roots in America and feel part of the big picture, and make it much easier for whites to recognize ongoing patterns of discrimination, and be much more aware of privilege and racism. It also makes it much harder to tune out black history as "not being theirs," since they learn simultaneously how every topic that affects their ancestors, also affects minorities. Shoehorning Harriet Tubman and a bunch of inventors into a single month doesn't do that, I think.
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Permalink Reply by Eris on -
I find it funny that in terms of 'history months' everyone bitches about Black History the most. When Hispanic History, or Asian History or any other 'month' rolls about, no one seems to give a fuck which shows their shitty hypocrisy anyway. I can only chalk this up to a bunch of spoiled-ass kids who are upset they have to do some extra research and actual school work for a change, so what are they going to do? Post some shitty ass videos on Youtube or the like to sound relevant or cooooool when in reality, they're showing the negative mentality of this country at the moment. They're unwilling to learn because they're so enarmoured with their own little bubbles of life that they're too full of themselves to look outside it and see that there are other people out there and their history is worth diving into. She doesn't think black history is important? Fuck her then, considering we're flooded with so much Euro-centric history in schools anyway. I can only guess the stupid little bitch fucked up on some test or something based around black history and its 'our' fault she wasn't responsible enough to open what little brains she has and learn something.
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I'm sorry but I've run into too many stupid little white kids that have said that Black and African History is uninteresting compared to European and Asian history. My heart was set aflutter when I heard some black kids were willing to actually plant their butts down and learn about OUR history so at least our own kids are interested.
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no,ive personally not been incarcerated myself. i was born in the ghetto,south side of chicago 1966,grew up in the suburbs of chicago from1972,where our house was the ghetto. we were on welfare and food stamps,back when for change they wrote on a square white card 11 cents.i also had the orange free hot lunch card in school,where after each meal they punched holes in it. until i graduated and started working my 1st job, at this time i can only afford to live back in the hood,i am one of seven children raised by one mother.5 males, 2 females. out of the males,3 out of 5 of us have been incarcerated and/or have felonies.my oldest brother was locked up in 1979 for an armed robbery of a convenient store with a knife and a pair of handcuffs.he was not released until 2007.i jokingly call him 'mandela' as for me not being incarcerated, from the area and time i come from, i'm just one of the lucky ones that barely slipped through.if we were able to sit down and have a discussion,i have literally hundreds of stories or incidents of police harrassment to illustrate the point i was making. here is such one describing about more than 2 black males gathering. In front of the very home i grew up in and family still stayed in at the time,my brother,myself,my best friend and his 2 older brothers were out front hanging out observing a party being held across the street and 2 houses down.nothing but underage white teens drinking and partying,pulling up stumbling in and out, while the parents are there "supervising". we all decide not to attend because the way things are turning out the cops are gonna be called and itz gonna get broken up anyway and itz in our best interest not to be present.the cops show up as foreseen,park their cars down the street and head towards the party on foot.they arrive at us standing there waiting to observe them carry out their duties.they stop and ask us"hey,guys what's going on,what are you guys doing out here? we reply watching and waiting for you guys to break up this party. to all of our surprise,the police say to us were gonna hafta ask you guys to leave or go inside.we respond that we are all over 18 and not breaking any laws.that is when their hands go on their guns and handcuffs and proceed to say if we do not leave the premises they will arrest us and take us in.needless to say we broke out and no one at that party was arrested or charged with any crime.i used to ride a bus to work and walk like a half mile from where the bus let me off.i normally worked 2nd shift 4-midnite.but this day we have to do a 12hr shift 6pm-6am.on my walk to work im pulled over by 2 police officers in a pizza hut parking lot, who know everyone from my block and my 3 older brothers. they ask for i.d. where im going etc...they also happen to ask me about my brothers.they let me go.i get off work the next morning,walking to bus stop to catch 1st bus after putting in 12hr shift.it is a small town with one traffic light on the main street for past 13yrs.as im crossing street to bus stop a cop rolls up on me hey stop where you going let's see some i. d.,i explain i just got off work and trying not to miss my bus.they grab me twist my arm behind my back threatening to break it and empty contents of my pockets joking this could take awhile.one of the officers mr.paulsen is one of the same cops from the night before.their explanation of harrassing me is supposedly they are looking for an esacpee from the boys home. in broad daylight on the main street near the only traffic light in town.now, like i stated before if we were to sit down sometime,i have plenty more of these type incidents i can describe to you in great detail that happened to me.at this time public enemy,nwa,krs one,ice t ghetto boys,fishbone and a host of other acts are describing the exact scenarios im experiencing, how can these guys ive never met, from places ive never been. know exactly what im going through on a regular? and this is before the rodney king incident, which didnt surprise me at all. i was glad someone finally had concrete evidence of what was going on.but no, these things didnt hold me back from succeeding in life,ironically each incident made me love being black even more! this is when the words an message of public enemy gave me a thirst for more history and truth of our ancestors achievements and contributions.the intitial point of my response to this discussion and btw im currently on food stamps now and can still very easily become homeless and/or incarcerated.it happened a cpl of years ago to one of my older brothers.
fructose soda said:okay, Q Manchu....... are you incarcerated?
Because unless you are/ or ever been, how do any of those statistics hold you back from succeeding in life?
I'm fully aware of the racism that permeates America.
If I was given that list of negatives from another dude on the street, I'd think that person was just tryna make excuses.
But I'm sure you're not that dude.
I don't see what death penalty laws in Texas have to do with your will to succeed.
Bust this, playa...... I used to be HOMELESS. & on welfare.
That was the past, tho.
Do you think I walk around talking about how my past complications are holding me back?
No.
As far as the whole "Black men hangin out on the street corner" being broken up by police. Tell that to the women/girls that live in my area. They'd be glad for the police to break that shit up, with all the verbal harrassing that they have to endure from those dudes.
Still, what does that have to do with you?
If you told me about your own personal story, then that would make sense.
All you posted was a (limited) list of negative information thats not specific to your testimony.
dude, did you even read what I wrote about my father-in-law?
All that shit really happened to him.
Still, he managed to make an upward path for himself & his big family.
I've heard folks on this site complain about the "Illuminati", the Freemasons, the KKK, the president, the CIA, the fact that they were the only Black girl/boy in an all-white suburbs. Seriously? The suburbs made them sad?
Try living in the gheto.
Nobody here has ever been sprayed with a water-hose. Nobody here has ever been infiltrated by the "Illuminati".
Most people here have never even been on foodstamps, let alone coming to a country with no education/ & no money.
If anybody wants to make your deceased relatives/ ancestors proud, then stop using the "ills of the world" as another contrived reason to feel defeated.
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Permalink Reply by Chris Asrk-pa El on
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Alot of people on here are talking like they are flat out making your ancestors proud.
But take it from me you are disgraces for your past and present.
I don't care about what lifestyles you are trying to keep intact you gave up to put yourself in a symbolic elite pedestal because of 'technology'.
So if you let a non conformer know about stop using the "ills of the world" you are defeated?
Sound to me your saying 'I gave up because I thought it was hopeless to fight something that bigger then me so let me join in this way of life even though its filled with dishonour, but I will spread "MY' form of defeat by telling people to stop fighting because I get a pat on my head from my peers and living in a culture of faking and lies a "pat" on my head gets me through the day'.
GET REAL YOU SHEEPLE AKA FLIES HOVERING SHIT BKA HUMAN BEES WAKE THE FUCK UP
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