When I hear Phil Collins I want to go wilding. I remember all that cheesy music he put out in the 80's. I hated the reunited Genesis also. I guess Phil was the bigger star by then, so had the most input. But I remember as kids experimenting with dope and listening to Genesis, Zep and Pink Floyd. There were a few Genesis tracks that would knock your balls off. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway would just kick the shit out of you; one of the reasons I couldn't figure out the garbage he put out. Hey, if I'm going to listen to that type of music, there were tons of other people doing it better New Order, The Cult and The Cure were on a dance thing then, but still maintained a level of authenticity.
This is an interesting disscussion. Makes me wonder if there is anyone out there who hates Genesis since Phil Collins took the lead. Personally, Phil Collins is okay, I like some of the songs "his" Gensises put out but they don't even begin to touch the ART the old Genesis used to create. And Gabriel on his own contuinus to make immaginative, creative music while Collins music sounds like it comes out of a can meant to be sold in the supermarket. It's pretty, makes you sing along and all the other things I,m sure the books say good music is suppose to do but. It's also shit you've heard before precisely because it follows the rules. I don't want to live in a world where rock n' rollers make a habit of doing that.
No, it's stupid to be mad at the band for the success that they've achieved. To me, a band only "sells out" if they're blatantly going against their core values.
Like others have said, depends on where their talent has gone.
Has it gone to shit? Screw your new-found mainstream success.
Has it gotten better? Well, congratulations.
But a fan base can change my opinion as well.
Taradactyl touched on the idea that most bands/artists have a "prolific" phase and that time period is long for some bands, and short for many. But as far as getting signed to a major label and "selling out" I don't see the connection. That is unless a band known for loud distorted guitars and odd-tempos switch their sound to squeaky clean pop-crooning and stop playing instruments all together.
I think it is less about bands selling out and more about as time goes on, even the greatest bands are no longer as hungry, as inspired, or as relevant as the next generation that is looking for a shot at stardom. Thank goodness for reunion tours and greatest hits collections. Gives those bands that did lose their way a chance to reconnect with the die-hard fans.