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Since you started off with a personal attack, I shall do the same. I'd rather be a dumbass then a fuckin' angsty mongoloid attention whore with shitty taste in music. Happy now fuck up?

They ARE both coupable for the situation, why do you think it's referred to as the ISRAELI-PALESTINE CONFLICT? Both sides are equally responsible (Let me make this clear, I'm not including civilians) for the choas that's unfolding over there right now. wether you bleeding hearts like it or not, you buddy palestine has some shady if not dangerous people that are representing opposition to Isreal, as they should, BUT they're going about it the wrong way. See Suicide Bombers, Ties with Hamas/Hezboallah...

Isreal is equally responsible because of the fact that our tax dollars go to those assholes, so they buy war equipment to blow the two areas to hell. Even worse is every other nation puts on this facade like they need to befriend Isreal when they're just as guilty. They need to grow some balls and tell Isreal to fuck off and fight their own shit.

But sadly, people on both sides, innocent people that is, will die. That is who my heart goes out to.

As for African slaves in Palestine- http://www.red-alerts.com/islamic-expansionism/the-bloody-legacy-of...


http://histclo.com/essay/war/ip/ott/ott-pal.html - During the ottoman empire period


Darkness Unlimited* said:


Phactz said:
Ah, let me be a little more political correct then.

PALESTINIANS who are thousands of miles away, who could give two fucks about support from blacks all the way in America. But keep in mind however, I typed "probably" for a reason.

I still stand by what I said earlier, lets get our people and supplies and support the fuck out of there, and let the idiots bomb and shoot the shit out of each other. These people have been going at it for over four decades for fucking land, have had various "peace talks" and they're back to square fucking one each time.

And by the way, Palestine at one point had African slaves, and people want me to support them? I'll support a fucking cruise missile taking those fundamentalist bastards out. Don't even get me started on Israel and their bull, attacking people over a freaking tree. Pssh.

Fuck 'em.



Miss A said:
@ Phactz- to cosign with Leila, the term "Arab" refers mainly to language, i.e. those who speak Arabic. There are a lot of Black Arabs. Half of Africa is "arguably" Arab ... Just saying.
@Leila- You have an awesome name (Layla (I know I spelled it wrong) is my daughter's name too). RANDOM; I know.


Other than that, I don't think I have anything original to add to this discussion. My opinion has already been expressed. The existence of the "Israel" state is highly problematic. I think it's disgusting that they've allowed been allowed to commit genocide completely unmolested by the rest of the world. Shit, we declared a supposed "War on Terror" in that region and we're funding the largest group of terrorists! What's even more shameful is the fact that this isn't the only situation in which the US is culpable. (where we either directly funded terrorists/genociders or blatantly ignored what was happening because it wasn't politically advantageous to intervene). Afghanistan, East Timor, Rwanda, Nigeria, DRC, the Former Yugoslavia ...


Leila E said:
FYI there were blacks in Palestine. Or AT VERY LEAST people with African blood in them. I'm Palestinian, I prob have African blood in me, my grandmother DEFINETLY does.
Even if not, thats a stupid thing to assume.






Phactz said:
^^ Oh trust me Kifrau, that was also directed towards those punk ass israelis as well (and to those bleeding hearts out there about to throw a tantrum, of course I don't include the civilians and non-military from either side. Duh) fuck them and those extremists, cheerleading cunts Hamas. I'm sick of hearing of this stuff, there will never be peace if Israel is steadily attacking and getting away with these war crimes and knowing the palestinians sure as shit aren't just going to keep letting themselves get intimidated.

I say we pull ALL of our support from Israel and let them fend for themselves. We have enough problems in this country affecting the black community, but we choose to worry about some fuckin' arabs thousands of miles away who probably hate blacks/Africans to begin with. Ridiculous.
You're starting to come off as a real dumbass, you know. You make it sound as if both the Israelis & the Palestinians are somehow "equally" coupable for the situation, & that it all mostly comes down to land!
And since when were there African slaves in Palestine?

African Bedouin in Palestine -

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/brill/afas/2007/00000006/0000...
There were african slaves in Palestine in the past. The whole arab world engaged in slavery just like the west. That's probably why you see so many European looking blonde haired blue eyed arabs. They are probably descended from circassian or slavic slaves. Do some research, Damos. It wasn't just muslims either. Christian Arabs kept slaves as well as Jews and Turks who lived in palestine Slavery didn't end in Palestine until the British took over in the 20th century.

Darkness Unlimited* said:
You're starting to come off as a real dumbass, you know. You make it sound as if both the Israelis & the Palestinians are somehow "equally" coupable for the situation, & that it all mostly comes down to land!
And since when were there African slaves in Palestine?


kifaru said:
There were african slaves in Palestine in the past. The whole arab world engaged in slavery just like the west. That's probably why you see so many European looking blonde haired blue eyed arabs. They are probably descended from circassian or slavic slaves. Do some research, Damos. It wasn't just muslims either. Christian Arabs kept slaves as well as Jews and Turks who lived in palestine Slavery didn't end in Palestine until the British took over in the 20th century.

Darkness Unlimited* said:
You're starting to come off as a real dumbass, you know. You make it sound as if both the Israelis & the Palestinians are somehow "equally" coupable for the situation, & that it all mostly comes down to land!
And since when were there African slaves in Palestine?
There have been in the past, what about NOW? What about in recent history, even?
Since some ov yall seem to be [suddenly] concerned over past slavery amongst Palestinians, why not be balanced. Why not address the fact that Israel was a full & active supporter ov the racist Afrikaner regime which up-hold Apartheid in S.Africa right until the bitter end.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11331.shtml
"Since you started off with a personal attack, I shall do the same. I'd rather be a dumbass then a fuckin' angsty mongoloid attention whore with shitty taste in music. Happy now fuck up?"

I said you were STARTING TO COME OFF as a real dumbass, there was no name-calling there - direct or otherwise. Don't get all cunty when you display an incredibly mis-informed arguement & someone else actully calls you out on it. And try not to take things soo personally - it really isn't about you sometimes.
Well then I'm sorry for referring to you as those very negative childish things. It was rather cunty of me to do so. So let's continue talking about what "really matters" here. Darkness, you have an objection to what I have posted, please point them on out and we shall further discuss them in a mature and casual fashion.

We cool?



Darkness Unlimited* said:
"Since you started off with a personal attack, I shall do the same. I'd rather be a dumbass then a fuckin' angsty mongoloid attention whore with shitty taste in music. Happy now fuck up?"

I said you were STARTING TO COME OFF as a real dumbass, there was no name-calling there - direct or otherwise. Don't get all cunty when you display an incredibly mis-informed arguement & someone else actully calls you out on it. And try not to take things soo personally - it really isn't about you sometimes.
How about we all get a beer together hah? That's my solution to the Palestinian/Israel Conflict :)


AngryClown24 said:
How about we all get a beer together hah? That's my solution to the Palestinian/Israel Conflict :)

Suuure. B/c as we all know, getting shitfaced solves everything.


Darkness Unlimited* said:


kifaru said:
There were african slaves in Palestine in the past. The whole arab world engaged in slavery just like the west. That's probably why you see so many European looking blonde haired blue eyed arabs. They are probably descended from circassian or slavic slaves. Do some research, Damos. It wasn't just muslims either. Christian Arabs kept slaves as well as Jews and Turks who lived in palestine Slavery didn't end in Palestine until the British took over in the 20th century.

Darkness Unlimited* said:
You're starting to come off as a real dumbass, you know. You make it sound as if both the Israelis & the Palestinians are somehow "equally" coupable for the situation, & that it all mostly comes down to land!
And since when were there African slaves in Palestine?
There have been in the past, what about NOW? What about in recent history, even?
Since some ov yall seem to be [suddenly] concerned over past slavery amongst Palestinians, why not be balanced. Why not address the fact that Israel was a full & active supporter ov the racist Afrikaner regime which up-hold Apartheid in S.Africa right until the bitter end.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11331.shtml

I was being balanced and I did address the fact that all ethnic groups in the area engaged in the trade. As far as I know the only slavery in Palestine currently is carried out by Jews in the form of sex slavery i.e. prostitution. You gotta respect Phactz. The guy has an opinion and he didn't mince words.
thanks :D



Miss A said:
@Leila- You have an awesome name (Layla (I know I spelled it wrong) is my daughter's name too). RANDOM; I know.


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Another interesting fact, Africans held other Africans slave before the Whites did. As expected, the Whites oppression was much more inhumane.

The Palestinian situation now is very comparable to what happened to the Indians, which I'm sure we can all agree was terrible.

I dont see why youre focusing on the Palestinians hating Blacks, it is completely irrelevant and has little back up. The blacks haven't done ANYTHING to Palestinians. If anything, they'd hate them for being American. If.
"I dont see why youre focusing on the Palestinians hating Blacks, it is completely irrelevant and has little back up."

EXACTLY! Some folks here is gettin' all one-tracked with this, acting as if there were this recent history ov slavery in Palestine, WTF! FACT is, there really isn't any documented history ov interaction b/t Blacks & Palestinians. And i would think a Black person would have a much easier time walking through a Palestinian village along the West Bank then he/she would trying to get through the airport in Tel Aviv!

Watch Joy Behar get out done when she tries to shit on Helen Thomas.

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