Not shocking but rolling with the theme....

According to a kicked-off contestant of the show who says she is of Caribbean descent, Chad Ocho Cinco is only requesting that light-skinned girls be included in his line-up.

COUPLE ALERT: Ocho Cinco & “DWTS” Partner Cheryl Go Public

Here’s the email she sent after being sent home early:

I was recently selected as one of the final 85 for Chad’s (OchoCinco) dating reality show. Long story short, Chad has identity issues and primarily chose Latinas and white girls (mostly brunette’s). Many of the black girls were eliminated right off the back (including Rabbit from “Real Chance of Love”)<– might I add Cali made a cameo, as well. I managed to make “Top 30″ before getting eliminated.

The entire day was unorganized and Chad only wanted to do things his way; he wouldn’t listen to producers and all selections were made by him only. In the beginning, Chad walked the field and immediately began to dismiss girls.

He later called a group of ten girls (including myself) up to the front and told us to “Not worry. You’re not going anywhere.”

Shortly after, he directed us to do a quick warm-up lap (at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, CA). This warm-up lap turned into chaos; lap after lap producers were unsure of what to do next, so they directed girls to keep running. Luckily, I stay with a personal trainer, so I ran a total of 6 laps before I stopped for water. Some girls began to hyperventilate, while others began to walk.

One by one, Chad starting pulling black girls aside and telling them “bye.” During my stop for a cup of water, Chad called me over along with a group of six girls – 5 black and 1 white. He then said “Umm…you guys are eliminated…yeah…eliminated. Except for you.” And guess who he pulled out the group? The white girl.

Hm, this sounds a little reminiscent of this: Diddy: Dark Skinned Girls Need Not Apply

Another letter also came in, spilling all the behind-the-scenes dirty deets. But this time, it was from a member of the production staff.

When you watch the show it’s going to appear as if he had to narrow down 84 girls to 17. In reality. 17 girls were pre-selected by the producers and flown to LA a week prior to do interviews and photo shoots for the show. The other 67 girls on set were “extras” filling in.

When Chad arrived on set, he saw a mixed variety of nationalities that the producers had already pre-selected – five black girls, 5 Spanish girls, 6 white girls, and a girl of Middle Eastern decent. He seemed rather upset and acted irritated. The producer felt that he was unhappy and after talking to them off-air, Chad wanted to revise the list of the pre-selected girls. He wanted to send home all of the Black girls and replace them with some of the Caucasian and Hispanic “extras” that were already on set.

After not having picked any Black girls to remain on the show the producers pressured him into picking at least two. Chad, in turn, chooses the two most GHETTO girls there to represent the us. And by ghetto…you know the ones that cause black men to say that’s the reason they don’t date black women anymore.

It’s really sad to see a man who has an entirely black family, including beautiful black children, have such low regard for black women. I’ve heard stories about his preference in the past but never in a million years would I think he would make it that obvious, especially knowing that his TV show is not exactly catering to the white folks.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 12, 2010 at 12:45pm

Not everyone on a reality show or willing to be on one is as dumb as you think they are. If you think they're all stupid women with nothing to offer society you're underestimating them and being very stereotypical. And not having a good understanding of what really makes a person "intelligent". They aren't all vapid sluts. It's not as if slut would automatically equate stupid anyway. That's archaic thinking.

"I saw her on a reality show. She must be an uneducated gutter slut so she deserves it". Might have worked in the 50s but not now.

$$$=decisions.

And also, just because YOU think only stupid people want to be on shows like this doesn't mean they deserve to get treated like shit or discriminated against. That's more male logic that gets any woman doing anything other than "behaving" killed. Or gives men the right to treat women doing anything other than what's acceptable like shit.

That's an excuse to not address issues. Keep doing it. It's been working for mankind forever.

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Permalink Reply by lyfenlyn on June 12, 2010 at 1:48pm

Chad has a say in the contestants.
Period.

kifaru said:

So you think intelligent women are going be lining up in droves to be on a show like that? I doubt if he has the wherewithal to stage something like that. Chad is not the producer or the writer or the editor of the show. He's hired talent just like the rest. Would you go on a show like that?

lyfenlyn said:
My issue is that he attempts to ban them (his own people) from the show and then has to be pressured to include them and when he does he picks hood rats to make a statement.

kifaru said:
So let me get this straight. Is your issue with Chad dating non-black(?) women or do you have a general issue with the portrayal of black women on reality shows?

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Permalink Reply by lyfenlyn on June 12, 2010 at 1:48pm

Thank YOU!

Madamoiselle De Sade said:

Not everyone on a reality show or willing to be on one is as dumb as you think they are. If you think they're all stupid women with nothing to offer society you're underestimating them and being very stereotypical. And not having a good understanding of what really makes a person "intelligent". They aren't all vapid sluts. It's not as if slut would automatically equate stupid anyway. That's archaic thinking.

"I saw her on a reality show. She must be an uneducated gutter slut so she deserves it". Might have worked in the 50s but not now.

$$$=decisions.

And also, just because YOU think only stupid people want to be on shows like this doesn't mean they deserve to get treated like shit or discriminated against. That's more male logic that gets any woman doing anything other than "behaving" killed. Or gives men the right to treat women doing anything other than what's acceptable like shit.

That's an excuse to not address issues. Keep doing it. It's been working for mankind forever.

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Permalink Reply by Phactz on June 12, 2010 at 2:13pm

He could've simple said no, but he didn't. He wants to broadcast to the world, and you know people will watch this garbage, that because he has the money and the status that suddenly he can say "Look, I don't need black women at all!".

You're ignoring the fact that this stuff has been going on forever, where we have wealthy, "better-off", black men pushing aside black women just to get to the white women, because in their coporate american world, it is an status symbol.

kifaru said:

Hey, Phactz. How about this. Why would black women love to be with this guy who they believe or know doesn't want them? Fuck Chad in this case. Besides Chad is not representative of black men. Chad is a millionaire athlete with a great body. Most of us are not that. From what I can tell he's got just an average looking face, so what's so attractive about him? Why would anybody be sweating that clown anyway? He's just one dude. There's millions of black guys out there that are single and love black women. Why is the blame on Chad instead of Viacom for putting that shit on T.V. ? You know reality shows are edited to follow the creators script right? So how come there's no uproar about the way these guys choose to portray black women. How come black women keep volunteering to be portrayed that way? The woman who is complaining is angry because she did not get a chance to be exploited. Do you follow my logic, Phactz? It may be fucked up but Chad 8-5 didn't make it that way. That dumb nigga is a victim just like the rest he just doesn't know it and he's not smart enough to care.

Phactz said:
But the main question here is why? Why isn't this brother attracted to his black women, who would just love to be with him?? Why isn't he even giving them a chance? It's not fair, and for you to excuse his behavior isn't helping this problem, which is plaguing our communities, where we have many single black woman out there, looking for that someone that they deserve, but unfortunately the only ones they do get will bring them so far down, mentally, psychologically, and financially. meanwhile every other brother out there is chasing down white girls. For what? For some sub-par sex? Just to make their daddy mad (white girls)? C'mon we can do better than this.
We need to find common ground with our black women. We keep saying we want to help the coummnuity, but we always end up at each others throats. Interracial dating may not seem like a "big deal", but obviously it is and it's effecting people if we are still having this conversation. kifaru said:
To quote you "...Chad Ocho Cinco is only requesting that light-skinned girls...".Why do you think that he has adversarial feelings toward black women? Is Chad obligated to like black women romantically? It's well known that Robert DeNiro, Bill Maher, Boris Becker and Simon Cowell deal with black women almost exclusively but I'm sure they don't "hate" white women. No body is holding them to a racially entrenched standard. Why should Chad be held to a different standard? It seems like you and others are taking his preference and then using it as a reason to project a lot other issues on him. i don't necessarily believe that he is guilty of all that is being said about him because I have never talked to him and I haven't read anything where he explicitly or implicitly states a dislike for black women. Is there anywhere we can go to see the women he dismissed? Maybe they were all unattractive or maybe they were all ignorant or maybe they had some other flaw. This reminds me of the furor over the white guy who was Valedictorian at Morehouse.

lyfenlyn said:
It wasn't about being dark it was black women PERIOD. (Diddy was the one about DARK skin) AT ALL. When he caved and was forced to choose, he picked ones that were not classy. So one way or the other it seems that it's a desire to 'get back' at black women somehow. Either by omitting us completely or showing embarassing caracitures.

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Permalink Reply by kifaru on June 12, 2010 at 4:17pm

So you're saying you would go on the show? Are you saying that the women who are lining up to be on the show have no agency in the process? How come they simply don't say, "No, I won't go on a show that devalues black women"? Chad is not the only guilty party here. How do you feel about Viacom for airing this show?

lyfenlyn said:

Chad has a say in the contestants.
Period.

kifaru said:
So you think intelligent women are going be lining up in droves to be on a show like that? I doubt if he has the wherewithal to stage something like that. Chad is not the producer or the writer or the editor of the show. He's hired talent just like the rest. Would you go on a show like that?

lyfenlyn said:
My issue is that he attempts to ban them (his own people) from the show and then has to be pressured to include them and when he does he picks hood rats to make a statement.

kifaru said:
So let me get this straight. Is your issue with Chad dating non-black(?) women or do you have a general issue with the portrayal of black women on reality shows?

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Permalink Reply by kifaru on June 12, 2010 at 4:37pm

I'm not ignoring anything, Phactz. Is your the issue with the show that he doesn't want any black women on a show that is degrading? Because I don't really see the value of lining up a bunch of women, having them connive and argue for the attentions of a man who cares little for them, and then choose among them as if they were sheep. Is that what your issue is, Phactz? How come you guys are not incensed about the general premise of the show: Rich guy womanizes until he finds some woman to fake like he is settling down with. The script is already written and even if he did have black women on the show by default he has to going to push some to the side.

If you can see that " this stuff has been going on forever" surely you can see that Chad is not the problem but a symptom of something else.

Let me say something here. You guys realize that these shows are like professional wrestling? It's not real.

Phactz said:

He could've simple said no, but he didn't. He wants to broadcast to the world, and you know people will watch this garbage, that because he has the money and the status that suddenly he can say "Look, I don't need black women at all!".

You're ignoring the fact that this stuff has been going on forever, where we have wealthy, "better-off", black men pushing aside black women just to get to the white women, because in their coporate american world, it is an status symbol.

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Permalink Reply by kifaru on June 12, 2010 at 4:53pm

These are Chad's kids by different mothers. They appear to be black to me and I would guess tht their mothers are black too. Are we sure that Chad doesn't like black women. What else does Chad going for him besides a fit body and money?

Chad's kids

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Permalink Reply by LesYpersound on June 12, 2010 at 4:57pm

ochocinco w/ his say in the contestants full stop (no use in blaming viacom) is going to be in public view for millions of people to interpret black men and their desires. what they will see is a successful black man who apparently doesn't want to date people who look like him. what will be inferred is self-hate, colorism, and color-struckness.

calling out ochocinco on that bullshit isn't singling him out, it's just vocalizing disappointment that this is still happening... even after we've got a black president, black first lady, and so on and so forth.

who knows what ochocinco's reasons are... even without knowing them, the rumors that're spreading reflect poorly on this guy and black men in general--unfortunately we don't live in a post-racism/post-racial society... which is obv for ochocinco since his preferences are based on race... at least when it comes to slagging off black women.

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Permalink Reply by kifaru on June 12, 2010 at 5:03pm

Some choice quotes from Chad

Chad in his own words

Ochocinco wrote a book. And I read the whole thing!
By Rick Reilly
ESPN The Magazine

The cover of Chad Ochocinco's new book, "Ocho Cinco," has Mr. Ochocinco flipping off you, the reader, with both hands. Why would you want to buy a book where you're being flipped off while you're still in the store?

So many, many reasons.

1. His stirringly descriptive prose. For instance, the vivid passage in the second paragraph, in which he describes his "huge-ass house" in Florida and his seven "sweet-ass cars." In fact, Mr. Ochocinco is able to use the word "ass" 32 times in the tome.

2. His seamless transitions. For instance, in a particularly tricky passage about what he'd be like if he had a show in Las Vegas (Mr. Ochocinco opines that he'd be bigger than "Penn & Teller and Céline Dion and Siegfried & Roy" combined), he writes, "Damn, I digress a lot." And then we are whisked on our way.

3. His torrid introspection. When he found himself at the only birth he was able to attend of his four children (by three different women) the moment hit him deeply. "I'm holding a little me," he thought to himself. "Just having little me's around is cool. No lie." That's transcendent.

4. His enviable self-confidence, a trait sorely lacking in these turbulent times. For instance, Mr. Ochocinco has no doubt he could play in the NBA. "F--- yeah, I could play easy." He is also planning a professional boxing career. "I don't know what my contract says about boxing, but I don't care. You know why? Because I'd be worth millions in just one fight. Serious, I could make $15, $20 million easy to fight somebody like [Floyd] Mayweather."

5. His refreshing candor, so rare in the NFL. For instance ...

... his explanation of why he doesn't block: "What good is it for me to start throwing my body around with all those guys who are bigger than me?" Exactly.

... his endorsement of New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick. "Spygate, my ass," he says. "The Patriots are good, but there's a reason why they are winning even though everybody is over age 50. It's the f---ing coaching. It ain't no secret."

... how his own boss, Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis, doesn't measure up. "[Lewis] doesn't have control of the football team the same way Belichick has control. No way."

... how he calls Lewis and other coaches at 3 a.m. to discuss game strategy, civilities be damned. "Their wives might not like it, but I don't care. They got to deal with that, not me."

... how he often misses what's being said in the huddle because he's trash-talking with the defense.

6. His tumultuous personal life, in which he doesn't speak much to his mother or father, nor does he want to be disturbed by family problems. His brother, Bo Johnson, quotes Mr. Ochocinco as telling family, "If somebody died or they're in jail, tell me after the season."

7. His business acumen. Mr. Ochocinco plans to come out with Ocho Cinco cologne, sportswear, cigars (in a partnership with former Cuban president Fidel Castro), sunglasses, hats, clothing, shoes, cleats and condoms. He also reveals his plans to skip a post-football career in broadcasting ("too easy," he asserts) and become an actor, a skill Mr. Ochocinco learned from watching Denzel Washington. "I should be in a Broadway show. I'm that good."

8. His balanced self-view. He writes how if football hadn't worked out, he'd have been a drug dealer. "They're smart!" he reveals. How his education at Oregon State consisted of attending one class for one week. "I didn't want people to know how smart I was," he confesses. And how his passion for a woman in Los Angeles led him to break into her house and sit in the middle of her bedroom until she woke up, the cause of his terribly unfair domestic-violence incident.

Yes, there are seeming contradictions in "Ocho Cinco" but would you expect anything less in an autobiography of a man this complex?

For instance, on one page, he describes how he's a fine father to his children. "They get time with me," he writes. "They know who I am." What more could a child want? Then on another, he admits, "I don't spend the time I should with them. I haven't grasped the concept of what being a father is." Real.

He states his credo that he will accept no outsiders into his inner circle. "If you weren't here before I made it, there's no reason to try and get close now," he writes. And yet he met his current girlfriend, Maya, on a street in New Orleans at the 2008 NBA All-Star Game.

He frankly admits he's "the best f---in' receiver there's ever been" and that he will end up in the Hall of Fame "like it or not." And yet he confesses that in 2003, he wrote a Bengals assistant coach a check for $100,000 because he was playing so poorly. (The check was refused.)

From the purchase of his first gold teeth at 13, to revealing that he once planned to kiss a ref after a touchdown, this staggering work is unlike any nonfiction available.

Mr. Ochocinco may flip off the reader on the cover of it, but inside he arrives at a sweet, confident crescendo: "I love me some me."

And who doesn't treasure a love story, even if it's just a man and his mirror?

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Permalink Reply by kifaru on June 12, 2010 at 5:14pm

Watch out, Born Jamerican. The AP Thought Police will accuse you of blaming the victim.

Born Jamerican said:

Ok. I'm sorry to say this, but I feel that most of the epidemic stems from the black community. I have heard of many mothers telling their darker children to marry or date lighter to have "pretty" babies with "good" hair.

Shoot, my own mother was happier when I dated a white guy versus my last boyfriend who was black with dredlocks. I'm sure that she must have told my brother that he should have lighter kids.

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Permalink Reply by LesYpersound on June 12, 2010 at 5:16pm

versus folk like kifaru who'd tell you your fam just has "preferences"

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 12, 2010 at 5:22pm

^^^I brought up "preferences vs. being plain colorstruck" in that thread about black marriage. "No. I don't have anything against dark skinned black people. I just have a preference for lighter skin" = excuse.

Way to misunderstand what we're saying/the actual issue, kifaru. Just way to go with that.