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Permalink Reply by sceneless on June 12, 2009 at 9:50pm

tashan said:

thay video sucks but blog some time on some thing more important plz

Shouldn't you be doing something more important than telling someone else to blog about something more important, douchebag?

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 12, 2009 at 10:35pm

If you look at his other posts you can see a pattern.

But yeah, CM Punk is WHC but it seems like they're going to Benoit him and have him in the upper mid card while people who aren't champ main event. Because WWE has no faith in new things.

Punk! Punk! Punk!

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Permalink Reply by Compound Egret on June 13, 2009 at 9:23am

Mlle d. Sade said:

tashan said:

thay video sucks but blog some time on some thing more important plz

Like what? WWE programming?

Punk's WHC. :P

I save the important stuff for actual wrestling message boards- not here where it'll just drown- or God forbid Egret waltz in here and try and tell us what wrestling is while knowing less than Nancy Grace about the subject but using the same dismissive language. That's the pros of a wrestling board- you never run into people like that.

Don't let your bitterness become a millstone. You are dredging up funk from at least a year ago on the old board. It makes you seem petty, especially in light of the fact that it was my suggestion that you start a wrestling thread. As much as you like to call names, you basically did what I said.

Everyone is not going to like what you like. Get over it. Looks like all the other wrestling fans on this board already have.

Hugs from the left coast.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 13, 2009 at 3:45pm

How did I even know you'd bother to read this thread despite not having any interest in the subject?
Because that's how you are.

Also: it was from this board, not the old board. It was in the original Wrestling thread (made by Vicki- so you in fact, came into the wrestling thread and tried to wield your mighty sword of hubris) and then you proceeded to try and tell an expert what it was when you're not even a novice. Because you know everything; that's particular amount of nerve and disrespect has stayed with me because it was so far out there in terms of what you think is rational. If you don't know something about something don't pretend that you do.

What's disturbing is that you don't seem to understand how insulting/nerve/ri-cock-ulous your attempt to tell wrestling fans what wrestling is was.

And I did not make the original pro wrestling thread- Vicki FM, did.
Also, the concept of a wrestling thread on a board like this is limited in what it can do (in terms of discussion of actual topics, not just one-off posting- but you wouldn't know what any of that was THEN try to tell me what it was) so it was ultimately pointless you start one but I thought I'd make an excuse to post wrasslin and not have it no sold.

Maybe you need to get over the fact that there's at least one person here who's not going to take your "i know nothing of this subject but I'm going to try and tell you what it is" shit. :P

Don't complain about my complaining if you want to come in and read the thread. That's just. ..ridiculous.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 13, 2009 at 3:56pm

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 13, 2009 at 4:03pm

Alright! What the fuck! Mitsuharu Misawa passed away. :(

"On June 13, 2009, after receiving a belly to back suplex from Akitoshi Saito during a tag team match with Go Shiozaki against Saito and Bison Smith at Hiroshima Green Arena, Misawa lost consciousness and was taken to a hospital. He was pronounced dead in the hospital at 10:10 p.m. JST (9:10 a.m. EDT, 1:10 p.m. UTC)

This is the very last photo of him before he was taken to the hospital...

I don't even know what to say or tell you... I huge lost for the entire wrestling world... Rest In Peace Tiger Mask II: Mitsuharu Misawa."

This is a huge shock.

You can definitely expect 21 bell salutes from here to Korakuen Hall.


Yeah, wrestling is fake alright. There are real risks involved and even if you've been in the sport 25 years something can still go wrong.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 13, 2009 at 4:06pm

From Chris Hero's myspace. . .


Misawa-San
Current mood:disbelief
Words cannot express how deeply shocked I am. We're all just in utter disbelief. Stunned sadness.

The moments at ringside felt an eternity. Never, in my life, have I wanted the fighting spirit to jump into someone's being more than I wanted tonight. The fans chanted Misawa, Misawa, Misawa. They wanted their Hero to get up so ****ing bad. Just get up. Come on! You're too tough for this. Too strong. I grabbed his boots and held onto them til they took him away.

My heart goes out to his family. His students. His peers. His friends. His fans. His opponents tonight and his partner. It was a freak accident. No one is at fault.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 13, 2009 at 4:24pm

People are saying this might be the final nail in Pro wrestling NOAH's coffin since it was an in ring death= NOAH may have to tone down it's style= I don't agree with that reaction because it was a freak accident. The level of training is so great in Japan the heavier work rate never causes as many injuries as it would in the states. Or NOAH may have to close down. Whatever happens it's going to dramatically change the face of puro.This is proving to be a turbulent summer for puroresu. The last shocking puro death was legend Shinya Hashimoto's sudden departure almost 5 years ago.

Japanese news sites (wrestling is covered as a sport) are saying it was heart failure but given the high angled nature of the back suplex that caused Misawa to become paralyzed before being taken to the hospital it is likely heart failure as a result of head/spine trauma.

An old Misawa match:

Can you imagine that chant going as he was carried out of the arena on a stretcher?
They wanted their hero to rise again.
Just a few days short of his 47th birthday.

A little more background info.. .
from the Wrestling Observer....

MISAWA PASSES AWAY AFTER BACKDROP IN HIROSHIMA MATCH
Mitsuharu Misawa, one of the greatest pro wrestlers of all-time, was declared dead at 10:10 p.m. Saturday night at a hospital in Hiroshima after being dropped on his head in a tag team title match.
Misawa would have turned 47 on June 18th.
Misawa & Go Shiozaki were challening Bison Smith & Akitoshi Saito for the GHC tag team championship in Hiroshima and Misawa was dropped on his head at about 8:45 p.m. and knocked unconscious.
According to eye witness reports, Saito gave Misawa a "routine" back suplex that was described as a "7" in danger on a scale of one-to-ten. He did not get up. It was chaos in the ring as they attempted to revive him using CPR and the crowd was hushed for a while, and began a "Misawa" chant. He turned purple in the ring and was rushed to the hospital in an ambulance.
His heart stopped beating in the ring. The cause of death may have been a heart attack.
The wrestlers were told on the bus that he had passed away.
While it is being reported that he passed away at the hospital, he may have actually passed away in the ring.
Misawa was the Japanese high school national wrestling champion at 187 pounds in 1980, and was recruited by Giant Baba into All Japan Pro Wrestling. He gained his first taste of stardom in 1984 when he was chosen to be the second Tiger Mask. After unmasking in 1990, he became an even bigger star after a series of singles matches with Jumbo Tsuruta.
He was Japan's biggest pro wrestling star of the 90s, and one could make a strong case for him as the top wrestler of the decade. He was the Wrestler of the Year in 1995, 1997 and 1999.
After the death of Shohei "Giant" Baba, Misawa wrestled a little over one more year for All Japan Pro Wrestling, while working as company president. After consistently butting heads with owner Motoko Baba, the widow of Shohei Baba, he and 90% of the All Japan roster quit the company to form Pro Wrestling NOAH.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 13, 2009 at 4:51pm

From Mike Johnson @ PWInsider.com


I am extremely saddened to report that one of the greatest in-ring workers of the modern age and the founder of Pro Wrestling NOAH, Mitsuhau Misawa, just a few days short of his 47th birthday, died earlier this morning (tonight in Japan) following an in-ring accident stemming from a suplex.

Misawa was wrestling in a tag team bout at the Hiroshima Green Arena, teaming with Go Shiozaki to challenge Bison Smith and Akitoshi Saito for NOAH's Global Honored Crown Tag Team championships Around 15-17 minutes in, Saito delivered with what was described to me as looking like a "routine" back suplex. Misawa went over for the bump but didn't get back up. The entire roster surrounded the ring as they attempted to revive him. The crowd, realizing something was wrong, went silent and then began chanting Misawa's name.

It is believed Misawa may have suffered a heart attack as he immediately stopped breathing. EMTS attempted to revive him in the ring via AED in the ring and he was rushed out to an ambulance.

In the wake of the Misawa incident, the show was immediately halted. The NOAH roster were instructed to return to their tour buses and were later informed Misawa had passed away.

Yomuri Online in Japan reported that Misawa passed away en route to the hospital at 10:10 PM Japanese time. It's possible he passed away before that, but 10:10 is the official time in media reports.

Misawa was groomed for stardom from the day he was brought into All Japan by Shohei "Giant" Baba after being successful amateur High School wrestler. He became the second Tiger Mask (under the hood, he wrestled Bret Hart in 1990) before eventually competing under his real name.

Misawa's classics with Toshiaki Kawada and Kenta Kobashi were the stuff of immediate legend, with Japanese photos of the bouts showing hard-hitting still photos that looked more like boxing matches. Then, when you'd see the tapes via trading, you were awe-struck at how intensely athletic and competitive the bouts were. Before hardcore was a buzz word used to promote a certain style, that's what All Japan main events were - a hardcore, physically brutal style of storytelling in professional wrestling that was unlike anything else in the era.

When All Japan Pro Wrestling owner Shohei "Giant" Baba passed away in 1999, issues with Baba's widow, Motoko Baba eventually led to Misawa leading an exodus of most of the core All Japan talents from the company a year later, forming Pro Wrestling NOAH. The biggest hold-out was Toshiaki Kawada but every other major AJPW name at the time jumped. NOAH, almost immediately, became one of the top in-ring products anywhere in the world, with Misawa as one of the key figures in and out of the ring. All Japan was never the same, although it continues to live on under the ownership of Keiji Mutoh.

Stateside, Misawa made very few trips to the United States to perform, working a pair of shows for Ring of Honor and Harley Race's WLW last year as well as appearing for California's Pro Wrestling Iron, an American satellite promotion for NOAH a few years prior run by Mike Modest and Donovan Morgan.

In Japan, Misawa was one of the all-time greatest in-ring performers and in many ways, was still carrying the torch for the style that Baba and All Japan, in their prime, excelled at. He wasn't in his prime shape anymore and physically, was beaten down by the punishment he put his body through, but when needed, could still perform at an incredible level in comparison to others half his age.

I can't even begin to express what an awesome performer Misawa in his prime was. In many ways, the style that he, Kenta Kobashi and Toshiaki Kawada, among others, popularized in the United States via tape traders helped inspire the entire "strong style" phase of wrestling on the independent level of the United States. It's impossible to even access the influence his work had on the entire wrestling industry.

To read a translated version of a Yomuri Online report, click here.

Our deepest condolences go out to Misawa's family, friends and fans on a truly sad day for this business.

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Permalink Reply by Compound Egret on June 13, 2009 at 8:45pm

Mlle d. Sade said:

How did I even know you'd bother to read this thread despite not having any interest in the subject?
Because that's how you are. Also: it was from this board, not the old board. It was in the original Wrestling thread (made by Vicki- so you in fact, came into the wrestling thread and tried to wield your mighty sword of hubris) and then you proceeded to try and tell an expert what it was when you're not even a novice. Because you know everything; that's particular amount of nerve and disrespect has stayed with me because it was so far out there in terms of what you think is rational. If you don't know something about something don't pretend that you do.
What's disturbing is that you don't seem to understand how insulting/nerve/ri-cock-ulous your attempt to tell wrestling fans what wrestling is was.

And I did not make the original pro wrestling thread- Vicki FM, did.
Also, the concept of a wrestling thread on a board like this is limited in what it can do (in terms of discussion of actual topics, not just one-off posting- but you wouldn't know what any of that was THEN try to tell me what it was) so it was ultimately pointless you start one but I thought I'd make an excuse to post wrasslin and not have it no sold.

Maybe you need to get over the fact that there's at least one person here who's not going to take your "i know nothing of this subject but I'm going to try and tell you what it is" shit. :P

Don't complain about my complaining if you want to come in and read the thread. That's just. ..ridiculous.

Not really. Link to my only post on Vicki FM's thread. No expertise bandied...
http://community.afropunk.com/forum/topics/2059274:Topic:27896?id=2...

Old thread "post your unpopular opinions"... It's on page 100 if the thread goes to the original page.
http://oldcommunity.afropunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=15371&postdays...

Wrestling thread, mysteriously appearing the same day.
http://oldcommunity.afropunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=17639&postdays...

The only reason for a comment on this thread is that you are (once again) being petty. Again, don't let your bitterness become a millstone. Let it go, like Keyshia Cole.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 14, 2009 at 4:46am

Yeah but there was no reason for you to be reading my thread in the first place. I'm going to keep mentioning your ignorance/arrogance when I need an example of assholism. Deal with it. Don't want to be mentioned, don't be an asshole.
Why WERE you even reading this thread in the first place?

A man has died and you're still trying to hammer home your point about how everyone should just forget about your random acts of douchebaggery. A great contributor to pro wrestling, a man who has influenced countless generations and who's death has inspired a halt in activity for wrestling fans worldwide has died and you're still talking about that shit?
I know you can't understand what Misawa's death means but at least try to not be such a double douche- I know you don't get pro wrestling but c'mon. ...you being a douche happened, it's not going to unhappen so stop trying to justify it by being equally as petty but believing you're right the whole time. Why even feel the need to even point out that I'm being petty? As if you're some kind of judge who sees fit to "punish"? Can you convince your shit not to stink?


You saying there's no difference between ROH or NOAH or AJW and WWE is like me trying to tell you commercial hip hop and underground are the same. Yet, I would never be that brazen to make such a comment on a topic I obviously care little about but you felt the need to go that extra mile. That kind of nerve (to scoff at the idea of there even being such a thing as "contrived/canned wrestling" when you've never seen anything but- it's a huge world out there) sticks with me and will forever be a cautionary example of "douchebaggery" particularly in my wrestling circles when the discussion of "worst things ever said to you by a non-fan" comes up. You said it, you did- how exactly it went down doesn't matter because it doesn't make you any less of a sac.

Anyway. ...since probably one of the most important contributors to modern pro wrestling on an international scale has died it's not time to waste posts on douchebaggery. It's time to further honor Misawa who was a few days away from his 47th birthday. 21 bell salute.


Compound Egret said:

Mlle d. Sade said:

How did I even know you'd bother to read this thread despite not having any interest in the subject?
Because that's how you are. Also: it was from this board, not the old board. It was in the original Wrestling thread (made by Vicki- so you in fact, came into the wrestling thread and tried to wield your mighty sword of hubris) and then you proceeded to try and tell an expert what it was when you're not even a novice. Because you know everything; that's particular amount of nerve and disrespect has stayed with me because it was so far out there in terms of what you think is rational. If you don't know something about something don't pretend that you do. What's disturbing is that you don't seem to understand how insulting/nerve/ri-cock-ulous your attempt to tell wrestling fans what wrestling is was. And I did not make the original pro wrestling thread- Vicki FM, did. Also, the concept of a wrestling thread on a board like this is limited in what it can do (in terms of discussion of actual topics, not just one-off posting- but you wouldn't know what any of that was THEN try to tell me what it was) so it was ultimately pointless you start one but I thought I'd make an excuse to post wrasslin and not have it no sold. Maybe you need to get over the fact that there's at least one person here who's not going to take your "i know nothing of this subject but I'm going to try and tell you what it is" shit. :P
Don't complain about my complaining if you want to come in and read the thread. That's just. ..ridiculous.

Not really. Link to my only post on Vicki FM's thread. No expertise bandied...
http://community.afropunk.com/forum/topics/2059274:Topic:27896?id=2...

Old thread "post your unpopular opinions"... It's on page 100 if the thread goes to the original page.
http://oldcommunity.afropunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=15371&postdays...

Wrestling thread, mysteriously appearing the same day.
http://oldcommunity.afropunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=17639&postdays...

The only reason for a comment on this thread is that you are (once again) being petty. Again, don't let your bitterness become a millstone. Let it go, like Keyshia Cole.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on June 18, 2009 at 9:42am

Check out ROH's TV show!!, it's free! Youtube user ROHBrazil has rights to post it on youtube for those without HDNet

Episode 13: Hero vs. Lynn
Episode #13 of Ring of Honor on HDNet is now available to view on YouTube. Those of you who don't get HDNet can catch each weekly episode every Wednesday at http://www.youtube.com/user/ROHBrazil (after the Saturday premiere and Monday and Tuesday repeats are through airing).

This week's edition features...

Austin Aries interview
Jay Briscoe vs. D-Lo Brown
Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. Silas Young & Bobby Fish
Jimmy Rave vs. Grizzly Redwood
Jerry Lynn vs. Chris Hero

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