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Shift in Rap/Hip Hop
Rap/Hip Hop,
You may not be a fan of it but you hear it whether its in the streets, the mall, the radio, or a family member of friend, etc.
Have you guys noticed that most mainstream Rap/Hip Hop songs are starting to have more of a techno beat? I mean is true Rap/Hip Hop really dead? I feel a big shift in that part of the music industry.
I even read an article on it.
http://sofurious.com/2010/10/13/erykah-badu-is-over-the-raptechno/
Your thoughts?
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Permalink Reply by Ghettopunkrocker on -
Umm, yeah...rap's been doing the techno thing for on and off since like '82. First it was electro, then it mutated into miami bass/bass music and that mutated into crunk and crunk mutated into snap and now it goes back to techno. Full circle.
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Permalink Reply by o0dreamer0o on -
Ghettopunkrocker said:Umm, yeah...rap's been doing the techno thing for on and off since like '82. First it was electro, then it mutated into miami bass/bass music and that mutated into crunk and crunk mutated into snap and now it goes back to techno. Full circle.
Wow really! I don’t know much about Rap/Hip Hop so you just taught me something.
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Permalink Reply by Ghettopunkrocker on
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What are your musical preferences?
o0dreamer0o said:
Ghettopunkrocker said:Umm, yeah...rap's been doing the techno thing for on and off since like '82. First it was electro, then it mutated into miami bass/bass music and that mutated into crunk and crunk mutated into snap and now it goes back to techno. Full circle.
Wow really! I don’t know much about Rap/Hip Hop so you just taught me something.
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Permalink Reply by oilkanlarry on -
remember Planet Rock. good album. Yeah synths in rap music is nothing new it is just it was sampled originally. Rap has been working the synth dance music thing since the first albums.
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Permalink Reply by Compound Egret on -
Can't forget "hip house". These tracks used to be very common on albums from the east coast...
techno and house music is yet another African American innovation that many of us have abandoned.
The current adaption of it may just be shrewd business. Techno and electronic stuff has a global appeal. That has to result in more spins and maybe more publishing money and licensing opportunities. Think about all the times you have heard "I got a feeling" in movies and commercials.
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Permalink Reply by Fashionfreak on -
uh, yeah. i find it quite irritating tho. bleh.
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Permalink Reply by X-D-D-M*9 on
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I understand the reaction. But as stated by GhettoPunkRocker, OilKanLarry & Compound this thing of Hip Hop ebracing electronic sounds is not new. Afrika Bambaataa was spinning early electronic music since the late 70's with Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europoe Express".
The trendiness of today is the problem but it's also global sales as Compound stated. This sound is massive outside the USA and is what has made Black Eyed Peas major. Kanye was actually tapping into this earlier by bringing electro-dance leaders Daft Punk into his sound with "Stronger" and actually the much maligned "808 and Heartbreak" album was heavily influenced by this music.
It's funny Erykah's riffing when she came up on this in the 80'sand did a dedication to Bambaataa at the VH-1 Hip Hop Awards perfoming "Planet Rock". maybe she's angry that it doesn't seem to have the same integrity now that the Aleems, Shannon, Connie, Soulsonic Force, Hashiem and all the others had back then.
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Permalink Reply by Ghettopunkrocker on
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I actually, wrote an open letter to Erykah Badu about this but then I realized that it was futile. But, fuck it I needed the material so I posted it anyway.
Check it out
http://ghettopunkrocker.com/blog/2010/10/25/the-black-techno-trend-...
Daoud said:I understand the reaction. But as stated by GhettoPunkRocker, OilKanLarry & Compound this thing of Hip Hop ebracing electronic sounds is not new. Afrika Bambaataa was spinning early electronic music since the late 70's with Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europoe Express".
The trendiness of today is the problem but it's also global sales as Compound stated. This sound is massive outside the USA and is what has made Black Eyed Peas major. Kanye was actually tapping into this earlier by bringing electro-dance leaders Daft Punk into his sound with "Stronger" and actually the much maligned "808 and Heartbreak" album was heavily influenced by this music.
It's funny Erykah's riffing when she came up on this in the 80'sand did a dedication to Bambaataa at the VH-1 Hip Hop Awards perfoming "Planet Rock". maybe she's angry that it doesn't seem to have the same integrity now that the Aleems, Shannon, Connie, Soulsonic Force, Hashiem and all the others had back then.
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Permalink Reply by Ghettopunkrocker on
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And Crunk is just bass music or as I like to call Electro's younger southern cousin.
Jay Johnson said:yep, like the first commenter said it started off in the early days with afrika bambatta rippin techno/german kraft work samples or w/e but yeah bottom line, yes i believe since albums are selling anymore, more rappers are trying to go for the club sound to get their records spins wether it be crunk, snap, or now electronica
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Permalink Reply by Nappy Hair on -
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You make some good points in your blog about the "Bellville 3" andthat whole Detroit sound. It's even more ironic when recalling that Erykah did a whole routine working out electronic sounds on electric beatbox midway through her show when I saw her 2 years ago.
Erykah caught red handed:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAwnYozKJ9A&feature=related
Mabye she has her own ideas but is probably more beefing with Black Eye Peas.
Oh and Jay Johnson, just a note that Arthur Baker and John Robie remade Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europe Express" live with Bam & Soulsonic with their own instruments and didn't sample.
Ghettopunkrocker said:I actually, wrote an open letter to Erykah Badu about this but then I realized that it was futile. But, fuck it I needed the material so I posted it anyway.
Check it out
http://ghettopunkrocker.com/blog/2010/10/25/the-black-techno-trend-...
Daoud said:I understand the reaction. But as stated by GhettoPunkRocker, OilKanLarry & Compound this thing of Hip Hop ebracing electronic sounds is not new. Afrika Bambaataa was spinning early electronic music since the late 70's with Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europoe Express".
The trendiness of today is the problem but it's also global sales as Compound stated. This sound is massive outside the USA and is what has made Black Eyed Peas major. Kanye was actually tapping into this earlier by bringing electro-dance leaders Daft Punk into his sound with "Stronger" and actually the much maligned "808 and Heartbreak" album was heavily influenced by this music.
It's funny Erykah's riffing when she came up on this in the 80'sand did a dedication to Bambaataa at the VH-1 Hip Hop Awards perfoming "Planet Rock". maybe she's angry that it doesn't seem to have the same integrity now that the Aleems, Shannon, Connie, Soulsonic Force, Hashiem and all the others had back then.
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