Something that's bothering me...

With a recent conversation I've had with a long standing member of the board. I believe they've decided to leave the board. It bothers me that we lost a member due to a conversation on separatism. I saw another side of the board and some members I was not proud of and surprised by. The idea of trying to promote separatism of any kind is counterproductive. Bottom line, we all need each other.

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Permalink Reply by BlaqJeff on August 26, 2009 at 10:08pm

DJ Random Brotha said:

^^^ LOL, my trolling account. (PLEASE DELETE)

@Albert, but nah, seriously reading some of this shit, it's hard to believe a community/family that's about thinking and living outside the box is built on hate.

Wait? Who says this site is built on hate? Yeah, there may be a few clueless folks who come on here spoutin' shit and what not, but that's not everyone. That's not even most of us.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on August 26, 2009 at 10:16pm

Your right, there was a legacy of threads from that person whose name shalt not be spoken. Such classics as
"What would happen if we all had to go "back"?" which was basically about abandoning all "european practices"
and of course "I didn't even read the book but now I'm going to call Sistah Souljah a sellout and proceed to call Lesypersound a n*****".

Like srsly.

Albert is cool beans said:

I mean for Hidaya, it was even the Hispanic hate shit. It was almost all of the threads posted. The the person presumed all blacks would agree with the person on. It spanned from the stupid sexist shit, to some other things also. The person seems to be gone now, but yeah I didn't real realized(and it may be sorry for me to have not) that El was gone until I looked at D's page yesterday and seen the pic's he had taken with El, then I wondered where the hell he had went.

I have a facebook, I really don't use it that much though.

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Permalink Reply by Ghettopunkrocker on August 26, 2009 at 11:26pm

I guess I can see the difference. But, what are the actual differences?

I'm guessing Hipsters like to be ahead of the curve culturally and trend riders try to act like they were ahead of the curve but are actually on the tail end?

Albert is cool beans said:
And not to jump at you GPR, but there is a difference between actual Hipsters, and scene/Trend riders.

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Permalink Reply by Ghettopunkrocker on August 26, 2009 at 11:34pm

Now for me to use my freedom of speech,

...So, it's like we gave free speech to some hate mongering troll? I should have deleted whatever the heck H**** threads and nipped this shit in the bud. Well, from now on any kind of defamatory bullshit is getting deleted.

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Permalink Reply by Ghettopunkrocker on August 26, 2009 at 11:38pm

Wow...kind of like comparing crap to feces?

Albert is cool beans said:

Ghettopunkrocker said:
Difference being?

Albert is cool beans said:
And not to jump at you GPR, but there is a difference between actual Hipsters, and scene/Trend riders.

That some Hipsters are actually not scene, I would say Hipsters are annoying but they would still listen to the music by a default. Other than that... A hipster... or just what's called a poser copped their style from a Shop Boys song and when you ask then what rock or punk bands they listen to, they say they have one Fall Out Boy song on their iPod.
A hipster is more of that annoying guy who thinks that his shit smells good, listen to unknown bands and dress out of the Urban Oufitters by a default, they also aren't inclined to talk to anyone because they think that you may be mainstreaming it.

They're also inclined to fill up he starbucks. I really don't see the posers doing that, the closest thing I got to a real hipster at Bccc was this black boho chick, now that was hipster and I don't see her dropping the style when the style gets dropped.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on August 28, 2009 at 11:31am

Remember the people/person that would register at the old board just to ask us why we listened to devil music or why once black kids start hanging out with white kids they stop believe in God and stuff like that? That's what Hidaya reminded me of.

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Permalink Reply by Madamoiselle De Sade on August 28, 2009 at 11:55pm

Porkchop nationalists who really think separation is the answer?

DJ Random Brotha said:

^ That's kinda true, about the hanging out with kids and fillpin to being an Atheist.

But back to Hidaya, I mean damn, who hates like that? That's just fuckin' crazy and pointless.

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Permalink Reply by Rosenda on September 4, 2009 at 8:25pm

Yes me too. And I actually took here question seriously in that one thread and I guess she didnt want an actual possible solution to the problem she stated. I guess she just wanted to pick on and pick out.

Mlle d. Sade said:

Remember the people/person that would register at the old board just to ask us why we listened to devil music or why once black kids start hanging out with white kids they stop believe in God and stuff like that? That's what Hidaya reminded me of.

I'm just sad my friend ain't here. We talked recently and you know I totally can understand. And I think part of it is I've known my whole life how it is to be not totally accepted among one community (black americans) and not totally accepted among the other community that makes up my background (mexican american, there was a couple dudes at the market at plaza mexico today i heard clearly loudly talking shit about me and my older sister right in front of me), and to finally find a place where you have comfortably and excitedly made true connections of folks who do accept and appreciate you, and then something fucked up and personal happens like that which hits you the wrong way, it can fuck you up. Especially when your life and circumstances are hard enough as it is day to day just to survive and move forward where you want to be.

I had that feeling standing at the market in plaza mexico today in lynwood. I been there so many times with friends, some were mexican and some were indian. We always had a good time there and most folks were nice to me (especially today the old man inside the punk/metal shop and the two waiter waitresses inside el huasteca). But then right before we left those two stanky ass fuckers be talking shit in spanish and yes I knew exactly what they were saying about me and my sister. It hurt me and for a split second I thought of not going back there.

FUCK THAT. I will go wherever the fuck I please. I will ENJOY THE PEOPLE YOU LIKE ME AND RESPECT ME. I will not let those who don't like me or think I'm a freak destroy my joy at going happy places in my lifetime. And yes that includes here.

Matthew even said he wants Machetero to come back too. He likes what the man is about and so do I. EL is a true friend who totally understands and relates to the experiences and struggles and knowledge that I've had in my life and continue to learn.

Albert and GPR, that is interesting your description of the difference between hipster and trend rider.
Me and another OG AP good friend were having that discussion a couple weeks ago. And that is also part of what my life is now. Consciously deciding what I want to do, who I want to hang out with, where I want to go for fun or other things, with complete disregard to any other outside forces.

We both been those type of folks and to have conducted your life forever like that, your mind just don't even go there with the terms hipster and scene rider. Hell I was having too much fun when I was younger to even stop and think if anyone else thought I was cool or not. I really didnt fucking care. I mean happiness is about the friends who make you feel right and journey along with you in your adventures. It's also the adventures you take on yourself, by yourself. There has been many of both in my life and there are beginning to be many many more that are even more important now.

Those words seem like a box that will shut me in and hurt me in the dark. But I do know what you both mean by both of those words EXACTLY. Hell, I live in Los Angeles. Personally the birthplace of both types of people. I guess I just always ragged on through the crowds of both back in the 70s/80s as well as now and all I do is focus on where I want to get to or who I want to get to.