... the other Black experience
White schools vs. Black schools
so, i just transferred from a predominately white school, to a a predominatedly black public high school a little farther away. the differences between them are astounding. the white school ws always clean and nice, the kids were able to take trips abroad during spring break, like italy and paris and most of the kids graduated and went to college. my new school is downright filthy, there seems to be a fight once a week and in my year of being there i have had 1 phone and 2 ipods stolen. the most alarming thing to me has to be that a lot of the kids aren't going to college and that some of the kids aren't even graduating. i know that that happens at a lot of schools but its sad to see it happen so much!!! I think the biggest problem has to be the parents. at the white schools those parents made sure they stayed involved with their children's school. they came to pta meetings and made donations and held fund raisers for the school. in the black school i go to no one really shows up to pta meetings. the parents dont seem to care about the school at all, until the end of the year when their child is not getting a diploma. then all of the sudden they are trying to meet up with the principal and talk to teachers. kids have to want to learn to succeed, but if their parents dont care why should they? if parents saw the state of our school and put of enough energy into making some change, i believe my school would be way better. Even the white schools in our same county are doing better than us!!! what does that say about us?
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Permalink Reply by Q.A.Bradford on -
hmmm. I grew up in SoCal. Its pretty diverse there.
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Permalink Reply by JICA on -
yeah in the atl most people live with people of their same racial group. there are very few places that have an equal amount of diversity. especially in the schools.
Aminata said:hmmm. I grew up in SoCal. Its pretty diverse there.
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Permalink Reply by Q.A.Bradford on
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I did experience going to a black (actually minority) school once for a year of elementary school. I always wonder how it would be to go to school in a predominantly black area, but whenever I get around a lot of black folks, I get reminded how non black I am (damn racists!). But I'm second gen. My dad's born and raised So Cal and he always got the same thing, which probably forced him to be even more politically black -- especially since he's light skinned.
But I'd argue that race determines the quality of the school. All these teabaggers -- as dumb as they are -- had to go to school somewhere.
JICA said:yeah in the atl most people live with people of their same racial group. there are very few places that have an equal amount of diversity. especially in the schools.
Aminata said:hmmm. I grew up in SoCal. Its pretty diverse there.
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Permalink Reply by Fashionfreak on -
new york is diverse but i went to an all black school.
actually, it's ranked the 2nd best highschool in america.
all the teachers are black (except for like what three) even the principal is black he's jamaican and majority of em have Ph.D's
the student body is 90% black as well soo........
i've never been to a 'diverse' school until i got to college. my education there was excellent if you ask me.
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Permalink Reply by Matthew on -
It says that slavery really did its job on us and the talented 10 remains educated while the rest struggle. We can not forget that we have to work twice as hard. Jeffrey Canada in Harlem has given us a template for success. We can chose to follow his example or not, obviously their is a lot in between, i'm painting with broad strokes so be easy people.
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Permalink Reply by Matthew on
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What school did you go to ?
Fashionfreak said:new york is diverse but i went to an all black school.
actually, it's ranked the 2nd best highschool in america.
all the teachers are black (except for like what three) even the principal is black he's jamaican and majority of em have Ph.D's
the student body is 90% black as well soo........
i've never been to a 'diverse' school until i got to college. my education there was excellent if you ask me.
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Permalink Reply by momowilly on -
Co-sign this.
jahluv said:I'll be frank - quit tripping on the whole sociology Black vs White education and get the best education you can get out of the school you are attending. If the school you are at has AP courses, take them. If you can attend your local Junior College and take advanced math, science, and English for credit - do it. Invest in SAT/ACT prep courses so you can max out your scores for college admissions.
The differences in the quality education between majority White and majority minority public schools are obvious. However, the time you have in school to make the grades to get into the college/technical school/etc of your choice is small - too small to try and change the world. Graduate, and if you still want to change the world go to college and get a degree in education, come back and teach, run for the school board, city council, something where you can rock the boat from a position of power.
Good luck - don't let your aspirations allow others to try and tear you down. You'll never see most of your high school peers after you graduate, so don't trip on mr. or ms. most popular in high school - they've already peaked in life, and that's sad...
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Permalink Reply by lyfenlyn on -
The odd thing for me is I had sort of an opposite experience, but things have changed alot since I was school aged.
When I was younger I lived in an all black community, and the schools there were very demanding, and expected alot of us. We were expected to go to college, and to do as much to prepare as possible. In the years since these schools have closed.
I moved to Washington State cause moms had this idea that I'd get a better education, but she wasn't putting me in a private school or something. I was in public school. We were the only blacks in the neighborhood. All the kids in my neighborhood were white stoners, and before 11th grade were all dropouts.
Go figure MOM!
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Permalink Reply by Q.A.Bradford on
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I relate 100%. While I had big ideas growing up many of my friends (especially non-black) were insistent on downgrading themselves and letting me be the token exception. WTF, right? And it just seemed like most of them related to all the black squalor media and acted as though a guy like me wasn't "normal" when in many cases I was their only personal reference for an African-American person... I call it socially laziness.
And now our own young people are finding impetus to compete in laziness via their own non-black peers, cause its "popular".
lyfenlyn said:The odd thing for me is I had sort of an opposite experience, but things have changed alot since I was school aged.
When I was younger I lived in an all black community, and the schools there were very demanding, and expected alot of us. We were expected to go to college, and to do as much to prepare as possible. In the years since these schools have closed.
I moved to Washington State cause moms had this idea that I'd get a better education, but she wasn't putting me in a private school or something. I was in public school. We were the only blacks in the neighborhood. All the kids in my neighborhood were white stoners, and before 11th grade were all dropouts.
Go figure MOM!
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Permalink Reply by Civilized Radical Films on
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What is social laziness?
Aminata said:I relate 100%. While I had big ideas growing up many of my friends (especially non-black) were insistent on downgrading themselves and letting me be the token exception. WTF, right? And it just seemed like most of them related to all the black squalor media and acted as though a guy like me wasn't "normal" when in many cases I was their only personal reference for an African-American person... I call it socially laziness.
And now our own young people are finding impetus to compete in laziness via their own non-black peers, cause its "popular".
lyfenlyn said:The odd thing for me is I had sort of an opposite experience, but things have changed alot since I was school aged.
When I was younger I lived in an all black community, and the schools there were very demanding, and expected alot of us. We were expected to go to college, and to do as much to prepare as possible. In the years since these schools have closed.
I moved to Washington State cause moms had this idea that I'd get a better education, but she wasn't putting me in a private school or something. I was in public school. We were the only blacks in the neighborhood. All the kids in my neighborhood were white stoners, and before 11th grade were all dropouts.
Go figure MOM!
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Permalink Reply by Q.A.Bradford on
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Well if you have a stand up friend who sets a generally good example, but you relegate those good judgments as just being a peculiarity of that particular friend and refuse to follow suit, I'd say its socially lazy... the idea of seeing becoming or good behavior with an eye of jealous disdain so that one may maintain their pessimism and excuse themselves from personal development.
DJ Random Brotha said:What is social laziness?
Aminata said:I relate 100%. While I had big ideas growing up many of my friends (especially non-black) were insistent on downgrading themselves and letting me be the token exception. WTF, right? And it just seemed like most of them related to all the black squalor media and acted as though a guy like me wasn't "normal" when in many cases I was their only personal reference for an African-American person... I call it socially laziness.
And now our own young people are finding impetus to compete in laziness via their own non-black peers, cause its "popular".
lyfenlyn said:The odd thing for me is I had sort of an opposite experience, but things have changed alot since I was school aged.
When I was younger I lived in an all black community, and the schools there were very demanding, and expected alot of us. We were expected to go to college, and to do as much to prepare as possible. In the years since these schools have closed.
I moved to Washington State cause moms had this idea that I'd get a better education, but she wasn't putting me in a private school or something. I was in public school. We were the only blacks in the neighborhood. All the kids in my neighborhood were white stoners, and before 11th grade were all dropouts.
Go figure MOM!
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Permalink Reply by Civilized Radical Films on
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How can one make sure that they don't, fall into this social laziness?
Aminata said:Finding excuses to be undermine political correct attitudes and behavior.
DJ Random Brotha said:What is social laziness?
Aminata said:I relate 100%. While I had big ideas growing up many of my friends (especially non-black) were insistent on downgrading themselves and letting me be the token exception. WTF, right? And it just seemed like most of them related to all the black squalor media and acted as though a guy like me wasn't "normal" when in many cases I was their only personal reference for an African-American person... I call it socially laziness.
And now our own young people are finding impetus to compete in laziness via their own non-black peers, cause its "popular".
lyfenlyn said:The odd thing for me is I had sort of an opposite experience, but things have changed alot since I was school aged.
When I was younger I lived in an all black community, and the schools there were very demanding, and expected alot of us. We were expected to go to college, and to do as much to prepare as possible. In the years since these schools have closed.
I moved to Washington State cause moms had this idea that I'd get a better education, but she wasn't putting me in a private school or something. I was in public school. We were the only blacks in the neighborhood. All the kids in my neighborhood were white stoners, and before 11th grade were all dropouts.
Go figure MOM!
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