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I liked Hoes With Attitude.

I do what I can =c)
I Loved it! Long Overdue.
YAAAAY! Thanks Lyfen, Omigod D.U., I really liked them too HWA, whatever happened to them.
Rosenda said:
YAAAAY! Thanks Lyfen, Omigod D.U., I really liked them too HWA, whatever happened to them.
Google 'em. The 1st that'll come up is their wiki page.
Was I the only one that found that bit about it being more difficult for women to tour a little condescending and kind of bullshit?
Cool beans!
Saw the first section, will comment fully after the rest.

Totally sexist statement coming up fam, warning:

Back when I first started listening to Hip Hop from '79 on, there was a judge of how a female would be rated by most guys I knew including myself. If the female emcees skills were immediately on point, they got props and this was basic in the pre-video, pre-magazine era. If the female emcee was "cute", she could hold our attention a bit extra.
But if she wasn't what we considered that "cute" at the time but STILL gained our respect from her rhymes, her career and fanbase was in a backhanded way set and solid because she did not have play "cute" games with with the male audience and was not considered a strong "threat" to the female audience.
Guys: "ooooh, I'm trying to holla at her later..."
Girls: "fuck that bitch, she think she cute..."


Roxannne Shante had hardcore respect from jump. Her look was more homegirlish and her rhymes were crazy raw, mostly unwritten on paper (eons before Jay-Z, B.I.G. Lil Wayne). She would battle dudes and eat them up constantly. Dudes would try to attack her looks and womanhood in battles and she would lyrically castrate them, for real. She still has the highest respect today, ask Nas and Mobb Deep.

Salt 'n' Pepa with Spinderella were considered "cute" and had to prove themselves a bit more then. With songs like "I'll Take Your Man" (which was one of their dopest) you can imagine some hate they faced and reactions of dudes seeing three fly chicks on stage. But they held their own with Hurby 'Lovebug' Azor at the helm and put out classics and incredible stage performances. MC Lyte was kinda fly but didn't play into it and got her props off of her skills. When Lyte had her so-called semi-battle with Antoinette (who was also real fly with a hard vocal delivery similar to Rakim), Lyte won out with her cleverness and style.

In this era where too many female emcees have to pose half-naked to be heard, these sisters from back then claimed their ground through hard fought props and true skills.

I blane Herbie squarely for all the 'she gotta be cute' crap. It all started with salt n pepa, and as you know gradually over time they got less and less about the lyrics and more about how much skin they can show. Im sure the song 'none of your business' was what made salt quit the game. "If I wanna be a freak and sell it on the weekend" REALLY ? Im sure the fact that she has daughters ate away at her and what type of example she was setting.

 

Now having a freakishly large ass passes for talent even though you rap like pootie tang.

 

Yeah were well aquainted with Jean, but she cant carry the game by herself.

Daoud said:

Saw the first section, will comment fully after the rest.

Totally sexist statement coming up fam, warning:

Back when I first started listening to Hip Hop from '79 on, there was a judge of how a female would be rated by most guys I knew including myself. If the female emcees skills were immediately on point, they got props and this was basic in the pre-video, pre-magazine era. If the female emcee was "cute", she could hold our attention a bit extra.
But if she wasn't what we considered that "cute" at the time but STILL gained our respect from her rhymes, her career and fanbase was in a backhanded way set and solid because she did not have play "cute" games with with the male audience and was not considered a strong "threat" to the female audience.
Guys: "ooooh, I'm trying to holla at her later..."
Girls: "fuck that bitch, she think she cute..."


Roxannne Shante had hardcore respect from jump. Her look was more homegirlish and her rhymes were crazy raw, mostly unwritten on paper (eons before Jay-Z, B.I.G. Lil Wayne). She would battle dudes and eat them up constantly. Dudes would try to attack her looks and womanhood in battles and she would lyrically castrate them, for real. She still has the highest respect today, ask Nas and Mobb Deep.

Salt 'n' Pepa with Spinderella were considered "cute" and had to prove themselves a bit more then. With songs like "I'll Take Your Man" (which was one of their dopest) you can imagine some hate they faced and reactions of dudes seeing three fly chicks on stage. But they held their own with Hurby 'Lovebug' Azor at the helm and put out classics and incredible stage performances. MC Lyte was kinda fly but didn't play into it and got her props off of her skills. When Lyte had her so-called semi-battle with Antoinette (who was also real fly with a hard vocal delivery similar to Rakim), Lyte won out with her cleverness and style.

In this era where too many female emcees have to pose half-naked to be heard, these sisters from back then claimed their ground through hard fought props and true skills.
This sister here is the ANSWER, word is bond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZrkfqW332E&feature=related

Damn! And the beat is ill. For real, she's better than most emcees in this game male or female.
That was really fly! There needs to be more females willing to go the distance without playing the trick card. Black women need to stop buying into the lie that no one wants them for anything other than their ass and start honing their craft.

Daoud said:
This sister here is the ANSWER, word is bond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZrkfqW332E&feature=related

Damn! And the beat is ill. For real, she's better than most emcees in this game male or female.
Omigod and they had my girl Medusa on there.  She is the Best.  You've got to see her live, cause thus far no ones had good enough studio equipment and production to TRULY capture her FIRE and FUNK onstage. She rocks!!  There are some tight clips on youtube of her onstage.  She is with the Project Blowed folks too from way back when, so I've read.

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