Women in HIP HOP Special--->whole show inside

Permalink Reply by lyfenlyn on January 21, 2011 at 12:51am

That was really fly! There needs to be more females willing to go the distance without playing the trick card. Black women need to stop buying into the lie that no one wants them for anything other than their ass and start honing their craft.

Daoud said:

This sister here is the ANSWER, word is bond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZrkfqW332E&feature=related

Damn! And the beat is ill. For real, she's better than most emcees in this game male or female.

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Permalink Reply by Rosenda on January 31, 2011 at 5:33pm

Omigod and they had my girl Medusa on there. She is the Best. You've got to see her live, cause thus far no ones had good enough studio equipment and production to TRULY capture her FIRE and FUNK onstage. She rocks!! There are some tight clips on youtube of her onstage. She is with the Project Blowed folks too from way back when, so I've read.

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Permalink Reply by 2Cloud9 on February 1, 2011 at 12:43pm

nicki minaj just highlights how commerical music has become.

but everything is commercial. even food and water. two of lifes most basic elements are a commodity.

its just ironic that hip hop began as a creative outlet but now there is nothing special about it at all. i dont even call what comes on the radio hip hop. its all pop music. its all the same. its a perfect formula.

real hip hop does exist you just wont hear it on the radio.

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Permalink Reply by Rosenda on February 2, 2011 at 11:29am

Right on 2cloud. You have to search locally and from likeminded hiphophead friends to find good and talented creative artists. They do exist. I found out about lots of great talent from friends on here and other places, also a local music tv show, and hearing artists on collaborations with other singers. Gotta keep your eyes ears open for great music!

2Cloud9 said:

nicki minaj just highlights how commerical music has become.

but everything is commercial. even food and water. two of lifes most basic elements are a commodity.

its just ironic that hip hop began as a creative outlet but now there is nothing special about it at all. i dont even call what comes on the radio hip hop. its all pop music. its all the same. its a perfect formula.

real hip hop does exist you just wont hear it on the radio.

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Permalink Reply by ReadNex Poetry Squad on February 8, 2011 at 10:58pm

Well written!!!! Thank you for your commentary> Everything you said was so true and genuine. Thank you it was refreshing to read and very inciteful.

-ReadNex Poetry Squad

Starky Gonzalez said:

Fair enough, maybe Jean couldn't carry the game by herself, who really knows? And then there's the debate on whether or not Nicki Minaj has true talent because we see she's obvious eye-candy with the booty implants. Nas should have been more specific when he said that "Hip-Hop Is Dead". You can't kill hip-hop; it's phenomenon has had one of the largest influences in the world and still does. Hip-hop has always had and will always have a vibrant and thriving underground movement. Take the Rock the Bells concert that's held annually. That's like a hip-hop pilgrimage to Mecca for a lot of people, and the acts are amazing.

I think the main problem with the state of commercial hip-hop started when major labels realized it could be a lucrative genre of music. People fail to realize that these major labels need to sell an image to the consumer of a hyper-macho thug, or an over-sexed female. And it just so happens to entertain a lot of people enough so that they will go out and spend that money. Yeah, it sucks that a lot of people mistake a lot of the fabricated stuff from major labels as true hip-hop, but it is what is. What are you gonna expect from a major label? They are trying to make money.

Fortunately, there is still a nation of people out there who recognize true hip-hop, or else there wouldn't be events like Rock the Bells or Scribble Jam. I concur, it's a bummer that real hip-hop isn't recognized by the music industry, let alone most of the contemporary female emcees, but they are still relevant to people like us, or else we wouldn't be talking about them. We are not the only ones who are aware of this apparent void in hip-hop. There are millions of people that share our sentiments.

As far as female rap is concerned, Jean Grae didn't retire contrary to popular belief, Rah Digga just dropped an album a few months ago (which was real dope, check out Classic if you haven't already), and I heard somewhere that Eve is supposed to be dropping an album in March. As long as there is that nation of people who love real hip-hop, female emcees while be fine.

Another thing I wanted to point out is that we are in the digital age. The internet has made it possible for emcees and other, striving musicians to reach a global fanbase that they weren't able to reach before unless if they were some international, multi-platinum, success story like Brittany Spears or somebody. Hip-hop is not dead, and the female emcee is not an endangered species.

lyfenlyn said:

I blane Herbie squarely for all the 'she gotta be cute' crap. It all started with salt n pepa, and as you know gradually over time they got less and less about the lyrics and more about how much skin they can show. Im sure the song 'none of your business' was what made salt quit the game. "If I wanna be a freak and sell it on the weekend" REALLY ? Im sure the fact that she has daughters ate away at her and what type of example she was setting.

Now having a freakishly large ass passes for talent even though you rap like pootie tang.

Yeah were well aquainted with Jean, but she cant carry the game by herself.

Daoud said:

Saw the first section, will comment fully after the rest.

Totally sexist statement coming up fam, warning:

Back when I first started listening to Hip Hop from '79 on, there was a judge of how a female would be rated by most guys I knew including myself. If the female emcees skills were immediately on point, they got props and this was basic in the pre-video, pre-magazine era. If the female emcee was "cute", she could hold our attention a bit extra.
But if she wasn't what we considered that "cute" at the time but STILL gained our respect from her rhymes, her career and fanbase was in a backhanded way set and solid because she did not have play "cute" games with with the male audience and was not considered a strong "threat" to the female audience.
Guys: "ooooh, I'm trying to holla at her later..."
Girls: "fuck that bitch, she think she cute..."

Roxannne Shante had hardcore respect from jump. Her look was more homegirlish and her rhymes were crazy raw, mostly unwritten on paper (eons before Jay-Z, B.I.G. Lil Wayne). She would battle dudes and eat them up constantly. Dudes would try to attack her looks and womanhood in battles and she would lyrically castrate them, for real. She still has the highest respect today, ask Nas and Mobb Deep.

Salt 'n' Pepa with Spinderella were considered "cute" and had to prove themselves a bit more then. With songs like "I'll Take Your Man" (which was one of their dopest) you can imagine some hate they faced and reactions of dudes seeing three fly chicks on stage. But they held their own with Hurby 'Lovebug' Azor at the helm and put out classics and incredible stage performances. MC Lyte was kinda fly but didn't play into it and got her props off of her skills. When Lyte had her so-called semi-battle with Antoinette (who was also real fly with a hard vocal delivery similar to Rakim), Lyte won out with her cleverness and style.

In this era where too many female emcees have to pose half-naked to be heard, these sisters from back then claimed their ground through hard fought props and true skills.

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Permalink Reply by lyfenlyn on February 9, 2011 at 12:22pm

I get a little tired of hearing people say 'there is no real hip hop anymore' knowing FULL WELL they listen to the radio all day long or watch 106 and park thinking they will find it. I mean if you arent into digging then shut the fuck up.

(( in dave chapelles voice )) sorry for yelling...

Rosenda said:

Right on 2cloud. You have to search locally and from likeminded hiphophead friends to find good and talented creative artists. They do exist. I found out about lots of great talent from friends on here and other places, also a local music tv show, and hearing artists on collaborations with other singers. Gotta keep your eyes ears open for great music!

2Cloud9 said:
nicki minaj just highlights how commerical music has become.

but everything is commercial. even food and water. two of lifes most basic elements are a commodity.

its just ironic that hip hop began as a creative outlet but now there is nothing special about it at all. i dont even call what comes on the radio hip hop. its all pop music. its all the same. its a perfect formula.

real hip hop does exist you just wont hear it on the radio.