National freedom to Marry day!

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Permalink Reply by osa on February 12, 2009 at 7:21pm

Hey this is a good discussion to have on AfroPunk because in the news, lots of time they like to pit Black and gay people against each other. There's always stories on how Black communities oppose gay marriage, but they're ignoring the existence and opinions of Black people who are gay and who may need access to the benefits attached to being married, and there are benefits, including economic ones.

I'm not big on marriage, and I don't understand why straight people are always talking about how sacred the institution of marriage is. I personally have no desire to get married even though I could see myself in a long term relationship with someone who I also lived with. But when it comes to equal rights, just like yr saying Bryan, gay couples in committed unions should have the same rights as straight couples do. You should be able to have your spouse/partner/whatever share your insurance. You should be able to decide what happens to your partner in terms of medical care if they can't decide for themselves. Gay people who are in married-type relationships should definitely have all of the same rights as straight people who are in the same kind of relationships, and if certain gay people want access to that "sacred institution" then they should have it. To me, being part of a costly formal ceremony like a wedding has absolutely no appeal. Who wants to kiss their girlfriend in front of all their friends and family? Ew, embarrassing. But now that I'm thinking about it, I guess you can get married without having a wedding...

Also these two Black girls I know in Toronto are getting married soon! Congratulations Leah & Kyisha!

Permalink Reply by Kaos Blac on February 13, 2009 at 1:57pm

Awww hurray for the happy couple. Yeah I dont care for the word just what good it could do.

osa said:

Hey this is a good discussion to have on AfroPunk because in the news, lots of time they like to pit Black and gay people against each other. There's always stories on how Black communities oppose gay marriage, but they're ignoring the existence and opinions of Black people who are gay and who may need access to the benefits attached to being married, and there are benefits, including economic ones.

I'm not big on marriage, and I don't understand why straight people are always talking about how sacred the institution of marriage is. I personally have no desire to get married even though I could see myself in a long term relationship with someone who I also lived with. But when it comes to equal rights, just like yr saying Bryan, gay couples in committed unions should have the same rights as straight couples do. You should be able to have your spouse/partner/whatever share your insurance. You should be able to decide what happens to your partner in terms of medical care if they can't decide for themselves. Gay people who are in married-type relationships should definitely have all of the same rights as straight people who are in the same kind of relationships, and if certain gay people want access to that "sacred institution" then they should have it. To me, being part of a costly formal ceremony like a wedding has absolutely no appeal. Who wants to kiss their girlfriend in front of all their friends and family? Ew, embarrassing. But now that I'm thinking about it, I guess you can get married without having a wedding...

Also these two Black girls I know in Toronto are getting married soon! Congratulations Leah & Kyisha!

Permalink Reply by DanielaInfinity on February 23, 2009 at 10:26pm

as long as i pay the same taxes as people who are legally able to get married i want the same rights. if and when i want to marry a woman i will do whatever i need to do to make it so. civil unions, to me, are a nice step in the right direction in the context of the time period they came into fruition (as well as domestic partnerships) but i feel like it's 2009 and people need to chill the fuck out.

i think if i can't get married, i shouldn't have to pay taxes.

Permalink Reply by guitargrrrl76 on February 23, 2009 at 11:13pm

I don't want to get married, but anyone else that wants to step into that bond should absolutely have the fucking right too. I don't think anyone has the power to say that marriage between same sex couples is wrong. Unless Jesus Christ comes down and says, "hey, yall can't get married" everyone needs to mind their own and stay out of other people's household. There is too much other shit going on in the world for the focus of serious debate to be whether 2 queers want to get married. It's complete asinine.

Permalink Reply by guitargrrrl76 on February 23, 2009 at 11:13pm

Preach it Daniela.

DanielaInfinity said:

as long as i pay the same taxes as people who are legally able to get married i want the same rights. if and when i want to marry a woman i will do whatever i need to do to make it so. civil unions, to me, are a nice step in the right direction in the context of the time period they came into fruition (as well as domestic partnerships) but i feel like it's 2009 and people need to chill the fuck out.

i think if i can't get married, i shouldn't have to pay taxes.

Permalink Reply by guitargrrrl76 on February 23, 2009 at 11:17pm

I work for Apple Computer and they are all about some domestic partnership insurance and having LGBT groups at work and paying the queers to have fun just like they would provide funding for any other group. It is a pretty queer friendly place to work. Apple usually NEVER takes a stand on political issues, but when it came to California and Prop 8 they spoke out against it and gave money to the cause.

osa said:

Hey this is a good discussion to have on AfroPunk because in the news, lots of time they like to pit Black and gay people against each other. There's always stories on how Black communities oppose gay marriage, but they're ignoring the existence and opinions of Black people who are gay and who may need access to the benefits attached to being married, and there are benefits, including economic ones.

I'm not big on marriage, and I don't understand why straight people are always talking about how sacred the institution of marriage is. I personally have no desire to get married even though I could see myself in a long term relationship with someone who I also lived with. But when it comes to equal rights, just like yr saying Bryan, gay couples in committed unions should have the same rights as straight couples do. You should be able to have your spouse/partner/whatever share your insurance. You should be able to decide what happens to your partner in terms of medical care if they can't decide for themselves. Gay people who are in married-type relationships should definitely have all of the same rights as straight people who are in the same kind of relationships, and if certain gay people want access to that "sacred institution" then they should have it. To me, being part of a costly formal ceremony like a wedding has absolutely no appeal. Who wants to kiss their girlfriend in front of all their friends and family? Ew, embarrassing. But now that I'm thinking about it, I guess you can get married without having a wedding...

Also these two Black girls I know in Toronto are getting married soon! Congratulations Leah & Kyisha!

Permalink Reply by Kaos Blac on February 24, 2009 at 6:57pm

I want to work for apple....hell i want to work for anybody at the moment.